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    You are still the one crying, as you immediately ran to this thread after the update on the translation thread cause you are that shallow. Your masking of your own cries is easily seen by all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtEmisPalmecia View Post
    @DeadRiser
    You are still the one crying, as you immediately ran to this thread after the update on the translation thread cause you are that shallow. Your masking of your own cries is easily seen by all.

    Troll.
    Lmao what? I've been knowing of this since yesterday, read the whole thread?

    Why am I crying? I'm welcoming the change and want to see what he has planned.

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    People cried for a way to easily cancel their casting... They got it... Now they cry some more. Sad world.
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    Every boss fight that I've seen, mages move the least. Once a safe, ideal position is found, the mage just stands there casting cures, and buffs. The only time the mage moves is when the boss moves into a new phase. Rinse, and repeat.
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    Why are people crying? Your lazy mage wasn't moving away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwestro View Post
    People cried for a way to easily cancel their casting... They got it... Now they cry some more. Sad world.
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    Every boss fight that I've seen, mages move the least. Once a safe, ideal position is found, the mage just stands there casting cures, and buffs. The only time the mage moves is when the boss moves into a new phase. Rinse, and repeat.
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    Why are people crying? Your lazy mage wasn't moving away.
    spoken like a dd that has no idea what he is talking about.
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    So remind me, what exactly was so hard about reselecting the spell you were casting to manually cancel it?

    People just assume mages stand there but you don't. Maybe some situations you'll stay still but a mage that never moved was a terrible mage. Don't understand the need for this change at all; all it'll do is slow down the gameplay speed for mage players and make reliable support more difficult. Not a fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    spoken like a dd that has no idea what he is talking about.
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    Spoken like a person who doesn't know my full stats. All my DOM/W classes are 50 except ARC. No power-leveling. I know what I'm talking about. I've played the roles, extensively. Checkmate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwestro View Post
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    Spoken like a person who doesn't know my full stats. All my DOM/W classes are 50 except ARC. No power-leveling. I know what I'm talking about. I've played the roles, extensively. Checkmate.
    and if you are taking up for it then you just show even people that leveled without pl parties could still be absolutely horrible at their job like you must be, checkmate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    and if you are taking up for it then you just show even people that leveled without pl parties could still be absolutely horrible at their job like you must be, checkmate.
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    You're logic doesn't make sense. I state an opinion, you respond with an assumption. I nullify your assumption, and you respond with another assumption. Lol. You seem more interested in picking a fight, than debating the issue, critically. Checkmate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwestro View Post
    People cried for a way to easily cancel their casting... They got it... Now they cry some more. Sad world.
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    Every boss fight that I've seen, mages move the least. Once a safe, ideal position is found, the mage just stands there casting cures, and buffs. The only time the mage moves is when the boss moves into a new phase. Rinse, and repeat.
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    Why are people crying? Your lazy mage wasn't moving away.
    1. We're NOT lazy. There are easier classes to play that don't make or break a party nearly as much.
    2. Mages being officially 'locked' into one place is going to affect DD's and the Tank WAYYYYY more than it'll affect us.
    - Now you will have to stay in range to get heals. In the past, you might not have noticed it, but Mages were CONSTANTLY running behind you all to buff/heal etc.
    3. The only battle we really get to 'stand still' in is Ifrit. (and the only reason mages stand still in Ifrit is because it's the safest thing for us to do...DD's do more or less the same thing. Darkhold is just a bunch of crazy running. By the way, Darkhold just hit a whole new level of challenge. Even exp parties are constantly on the move.

    Now the only reason many of us are 'crying' is because it's a HUGE change in playstyle. I'm not saying it's a bad change, but we know that it's going to be a huge adjustment not just for the mages casting the spells, but for the other party members to re-learn that 'Hey, the mage can't heal us while we run away from them now.'

    Reasons why it might be a good change:
    1. Mages will still be able to change positions move etc. Just now we have to do it without casting.
    2. We always were only able to semi-move (we always stopped moving as the spell was leaving our hands). This also created issues as tanks and DD's typically would run out of range while we were casting.
    3. Mages will be able to quickly move out of harms way. Currently we might try to move (even cancel the spell and try to run) only to get locked into still casting it and getting hurt/killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    1. We're NOT lazy. There are easier classes to play that don't make or break a party nearly as much.
    2. Mages being officially 'locked' into one place is going to affect DD's and the Tank WAYYYYY more than it'll affect us.
    - Now you will have to stay in range to get heals. In the past, you might not have noticed it, but Mages were CONSTANTLY running behind you all to buff/heal etc.
    3. The only battle we really get to 'stand still' in is Ifrit. (and the only reason mages stand still in Ifrit is because it's the safest thing for us to do...DD's do more or less the same thing. Darkhold is just a bunch of crazy running. By the way, Darkhold just hit a whole new level of challenge. Even exp parties are constantly on the move.

    Now the only reason many of us are 'crying' is because it's a HUGE change in playstyle. I'm not saying it's a bad change, but we know that it's going to be a huge adjustment not just for the mages casting the spells, but for the other party members to re-learn that 'Hey, the mage can't heal us while we run away from them now.'

    Reasons why it might be a good change:
    1. Mages will still be able to change positions move etc. Just now we have to do it without casting.
    2. We always were only able to semi-move (we always stopped moving as the spell was leaving our hands). This also created issues as tanks and DD's typically would run out of range while we were casting.
    3. Mages will be able to quickly move out of harms way. Currently we might try to move (even cancel the spell and try to run) only to get locked into still casting it and getting hurt/killed.
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    I believe the Devs don't want Mages to have the boring job of trying so hard to keep the tank alive. The GLA will have increased HP in comparison to MRD. The importance of Aegis Boon, Swift Aegis Boon trait, Rampart, Enhanced Rampart, etc for the GLA has gone up.

    After patch, there should be less need to be so close according to... "[dev1206] Magic spells have been unified to strike either a single target or, in the case of AoE, a circular area. Attack range has also been increased, and area of effect broadened."

    In general, SE, is changing the whole game style so that everybody can depend on a little bit from everybody, instead of the whole party failing completely because of one person (mage, tank).
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