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    Player Biggs's Avatar
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    Something, something, something, DARK SIDE, Something, SOmething, COMPLETE.
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    Last edited by Biggs; 12-13-2011 at 04:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irana View Post
    [dev1206] The effects of Protect and Shell have been made mutually exclusive, and one now overwrites the other.

    Is this for real?

    are you effing kidding me?
    24 - Trait - Enhanced Protect - Increases magic defense gained from Protect.

    Recast Time: 5sec.
    So I'm thinking that Protect will have higher physical protection than magical, and Shell will be reintroduced to Red Mage with higher magical protection than physical.

    This is ok with me, all classes need to have things they bring to the table that others don't.
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    Last edited by Engineer; 12-13-2011 at 04:44 AM.
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    shell tied into mag def, there is no mag defense. This is a basic syllogism you can tie in the rest. A=B B=C therefore A=C The reason they added an overwrite is due to the shell items people have from GCs
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    Yoshida sure does have a delusional Idea of what makes a game "More Final Fantasy like"..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    Step 1: Make spells mutually exclusive
    Step 2: Remove one of the spells
    Step 3: Mass confusion
    Step 4: ????
    Step 5: Commence monthly fees.
    What was step 4 again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Yoshida sure does have a delusional Idea of what makes a game "More Final Fantasy like"..
    Well shit, what's an expert like you doing on the forums and not creating Final Fantasy titles for Square Enix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Well shit, what's an expert like you doing on the forums and not creating Final Fantasy titles for Square Enix?
    Mmhmm! Final Fantasy never changes other than graphical updates, didn't you know?? That's why Final Fantasy isn't a series of games!! This is just the 14th remake of the original!

    I love patch note day, its fun to read why x-change will cause the sky to fall upon us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    Mmhmm! Final Fantasy never changes other than graphical updates, didn't you know?? That's why Final Fantasy isn't a series of games!! This is just the 14th remake of the original!

    I love patch note day, its fun to read why x-change will cause the sky to fall upon us!
    I agree.

    Progression in the gaming industry = bad news bear.
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    I whole-heartedly agree with the original poster.

    This makes no sense.

    Final Fantasy XIV Developers:

    Could you please explain this to us? Why was this decision made? How does this make the game better. Is there now no more Shell?

    Protect and Shell is a tried tested and true sytem of buffs that players are comfortable with and have been for a very long time. It also contributes to the Final Fantasy "feeling". Why mess with this system?

    If the case is in fact a new spell that is a combination of Shell and Protect can you please inform us of this.

    If you care about the players you will give us a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva View Post
    I whole-heartedly agree with the original poster.

    This makes no sense.

    Final Fantasy XIV Developers:

    Could you please explain this to us? Why was this decision made? How does this make the game better. Is there now no more Shell?

    Protect and Shell is a tried tested and true sytem of buffs that players are comfortable with and have been for a very long time. It also contributes to the Final Fantasy "feeling". Why mess with this system?

    If the case is in fact a new spell that is a combination of Shell and Protect can you please inform us of this.

    If you care about the players you will give us a response.
    Protect is protect... until you hit lvl 24 as a CNJ then it gets Shell added to it...

    6 Action Protect Increases the defense of all party members within range of the target. Cast Time: 3sec. / Recast Time: 30sec. / Duration: 300sec.

    24 Trait Enhanced Protect Increases magic defense gained from Protect.

    The statement from here...
    [dev1206] The effects of Protect and Shell have been made mutually exclusive, and one now overwrites the other.

    I take as the items that can give you shell will not stack with protect and has nothing to do with the spell right now. That is how I see it anyways... many others see it some other way but that is how these things go...

    the cat is bemused =-.-=
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