This is just appalling

[Nix]

I have a question for people: Would you rather your sub fee go up or have a cash shop you are under no obligation to use? Because getting everything currently on the cash shop for your $15 a month never was, and never will be, on the table.

Not what we're asking for at all. (well some, but eh)

Many are miffed on the pricing of the latest outfit because it's not only high compared to other MMOs, but also high compared to other stuff they've got in the shop.

Take Y'shtola's modish attire for example - $15 for 5 items (coat, boots, gloves, pants, hair), I'd like to say that's a pretty fair price considering what you're getting.

Now the Fuga attire - $18 for 2 items (coat, pants)

People are (rightly) starting to feel a bit ripped off - many of us have and do use the cash shop; we understand that gaming nowadays, especially MMOs, has a heavy part in DLC, cash shops etc and that's fine! But at the same time as consumers we have a right to say "Hey, now come on..." When we feel that people are starting to get greedy.

Now I know people have and will fire back and say "It's SE, they can charge what they want!", which is also true, they can, just as I the consumer can also leave my feedback in this forum and say that I'd actually be more inclined to spend extra money with them if they rethought their pricing. Not asking for freebies, handouts, or everything to be covered by our sub fee... But I am asking for a bit of a rethink when it comes to pricing.

As a head's up for those assuming that those who are voicing their displeasure are either kids, unemployed, and/or broke, and also those wanting to flaunt how much disposable income they have (there's been a few) - personally I have a lot of disposable income (the joys of being childless, having my house paid off, and working in an extremely lucrative field) but I still think that some of the prices in the cash shop are beyond what is worth paying. I think this latest outfit was kinda like the last nail in the coffin for some; almost double the price of a monthly sub for two items that aren't even account wide.

At what point will you (the general 'you') draw the line and say "Hey, hold on..." ? Will you still be ok if they start charging $30? $50? Everyone has a line somewhere, but remember that when you reach it and start to feel ripped off "SE can charge whatever they want.". And yes, we know, we have the option to not buy it (so we're not! Amazing!)

As a final note - I don't care what folks spend their cash on, rock on if you think the $18 or whatever you spend is worth it to you.

Have an awesome day folks~

[savageink]

The one argument that I see over and over in here that absolutely blows my mind is the insistence that the items are taking time from development for the game so it's part of the game. Huh? Are you the developer? Do you know what assets they have laying around that were rejected for one reason or another for the general release of the game?

There are a hundred reasons that could explain why a model exists but isn't included in the game. Not to mention the simple possibility that they have a crew who works only on cash shop items. You don't know why it exists and they probably aren't going to tell you, so it's a garbage argument. And really, who cares? The dev time for 1 outfit isn't going to give me a glamour log to put it in anyway.

Plus, the whole idea reeks of entitlement. It's like if you subscribed to a comic book and expected every piece of merch the artist makes to come with it.

[SpiritMuse]

Y'shtola's attire was made for the cash shop or she would be naked?

Y'shtola's attire made just for Y'shtola isn't quite the same as Y'shtola's attire made to fit every single race and gender in the game.

[Valinis]

Y'shtola's attire made just for Y'shtola isn't quite the same as Y'shtola's attire made to fit every single race and gender in the game.

Pretty damn close though. It's a valid argument considering the work involved would be minimal to stretch a few parts here and there.

[SpiritMuse]

Pretty damn close though. It's a valid argument considering the work involved would be minimal to stretch a few parts here and there.

How do you know it would be "minimal"? Are you a game dev?

[Valinis]

How do you know it would be "minimal"? Are you a game dev?

How do you know it wouldn't be minimal? Are you a game dev?

Are you really trying to compare creating an entire new outfit, to resizing an existing one? You don't need to be a game dev to understand the work involved would not be anywhere near the same.

[SpiritMuse]

How do you know it wouldn't be minimal? Are you a game dev?

Are you really trying to compare creating an entire new outfit, to resizing an existing one? You don't need to be a game dev to understand the work involved would not be anywhere near the same.

Well in my experience people often vastly underestimate how much work things take when it comes to game development, but I suppose you have a point. Still, fact remains it is extra work, separate work, done for a completely different purpose - which is to say, Y'shtola's outfit as she wears it was designed for her as part of the main game, and the MogStation version just for the MogStation.

[Alleo]

Most people here are posting that they find the price of the outfit too high and yet just because some attack people that buy it, SE should just suddenly delete this thread and we are all called children and more..All of us probably know that SE is a business and no charity but at the same time this means that we are consumers..thus we have the right to post our opinion about it. Do you have to agree with it? No! But being on the side of SE does not make your argument better or worth more. If you are annoyed at this returning topic just simply not read it? I mean nobody is forced right?

I am just sad how one of the big arguments is: Other companies do it too! Like how does this make it better? I remember a single player game called Witcher 3..where the company gave out 16 DLC for free! Just because companies love to take every bit of money out from their customers does not mean that we should be alright with it or should just accept it.

Sometimes in my own negative way I hope that they will put something in there that will piss off even those that are fine with it right now and have them get posts like "hey its optional, you dont have to buy it!". Because everything is fine until they suddenly cross the line and put something in there that you would have loved to have ingame.

[Senn]

I wish the outfits were account wide at the very least.

[SagaSoluna]

We have gotten similar threads from the very first day they opened the store, and we are going to get like 3 of these per item released, are we not?.....