This is just appalling

[Aramina]

I think movie theatre concessions are too expensive. What do I do? Refuse to buy anything at the concessions. What do I not do? Criticize other people for buying stuff.

[SendohJin]

I think movie theatre concessions are too expensive. What do I do? Refuse to buy anything at the concessions. What do I not do? Criticize other people for buying stuff.

not even remotely the same. your movie ticket doesn't automatically come with free concessions. our subscription comes with mounts and emotes and equipment.

you're one of those people who love paying baggage fees for airlines and getting less leg room at the same time right?

[Aramina]

not even remotely the same. your movie ticket doesn't automatically come with free concessions. our subscription comes with mounts and emotes and equipment.

you're one of those people who love paying baggage fees for airlines and getting less leg room at the same time right?

You're one of those people that thinks your sub pays for a lot more than you actually agreed to, right? A movie ticket grants you access to the movie. A sub grants you access to the game. Period.

You can argue all you want, but maybe you shouldn't agree to things without reading/understanding what you are agreeing to.

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[SendohJin]

You're one of those people that thinks your sub pays for a lot more than you actually agreed to, right? A movie ticket grants you access to the movie. A sub grants you access to the game. Period.

No, I'm not. I don't even have a problem with most stuff just the major re-purposing of existing in game assets (Odin Mount, Magitek Armor).

This was the original comment I disagreed with.

Do we really need to go over this again? Cash shop items are made for the cash shop. If the shop didn't exist neither would these items.

If this was 100% true, I would be fine with it.

Y'shtola's attire was made for the cash shop or she would be naked?

And things being character only instead of account wide is ridiculous.

[SpiritMuse]

Y'shtola's attire was made for the cash shop or she would be naked?

Y'shtola's attire made just for Y'shtola isn't quite the same as Y'shtola's attire made to fit every single race and gender in the game.

[Valinis]

Y'shtola's attire made just for Y'shtola isn't quite the same as Y'shtola's attire made to fit every single race and gender in the game.

Pretty damn close though. It's a valid argument considering the work involved would be minimal to stretch a few parts here and there.

[SpiritMuse]

Pretty damn close though. It's a valid argument considering the work involved would be minimal to stretch a few parts here and there.

How do you know it would be "minimal"? Are you a game dev?