This is just appalling

[Fawkes]

Bad comparison. Champagne has a high production cost, of course they will never lower the price of the champagne or give it out for free because it takes years to make. The vanity items are modelled and finished. There is no cost to make more of them.

Yeah, it's more like if you went to an all-you-can-eat buffet and you ate 9 cheeseburgers but on the 10th they wanted you to pay $10 for it. And you say "but I'm paying for all-you-can-eat", and the other people eating there say to you "relax buddy, you don't HAVE to eat it, it's optional!"

[Nihility]

Yeah, it's more like if you went to an all-you-can-eat buffet and you ate 9 cheeseburgers but on the 10th they wanted you to pay $10 for it. And you say "but I'm paying for all-you-can-eat", and the other people eating there say to you "relax buddy, you don't HAVE to eat it, it's optional!"

another false comparison.
We can have all the hamburgers we want, but have to pay extra if we want a lobster tail that's not included with the standard buffet. Which ironically is a fairly common buffet practice to have extras on top of the entry fee such as drinks.

It's really not that big of a deal. I mean just in the last couple patches we got a glamour set for every single class, the native american glamours, multiple minions, an amazing mount, etc etc
we get a heck of a lot more for free than what exists on the "premium menu"

and to the first buffet analogy, there are 125$ buffets they have champagne included. 1000$ is a way out there number

[Neophyte]

It's like people seem to forget what they pay for with their sub.

You pay to be allowed to play. Period.

Everything else is free extra, to make it more fun for people to play and pay for it. They can just stop releasing content, they don't owe us anything beyond 3.0. But then people would probably leave after been done, so they give us as much free stuff as needed to prevent this. Also, who would by Stormblood if we would not be entertained for specific periods?
You don't pay for the content updates, nor do you pay them to develope an expansion. You just pay them to be able to connect to servers and play the current content.

So I don't see the problem in paying for extra extra things, unless it worsen the gameplay if I don't pay.

[Roda]

not do you pay them to develope an expansion..

Then why the hell did I get a $60 charge to my account recently?????

[Neophyte]

Then why the hell did I get a 60 charge to my account recently?????

Because you paid them to be able to install the expansion and be able to pay for subscription to play 4.0 content?

[Roda]

Because you paid them to be able to install the expansion and be able to pay for subscription to play 4.0 content?

That is literally incentivizing them to develop expansions...
And that is literally incentivizing them to develop content updates. Mechanics... Systems... Animations... Items... All content.

Our subs fund content.
That's how money works.
They don't throw the bank notes into an incinerator once the sub ticks over.

[Neophyte]

That is literally incentivizing them to develop expansions...
And that is literally incentivizing them to develop content updates. Mechanics... Systems... Animations... Items... All content.

SE orders them to develop expansions and they pay for it. With their own money.
It's not your money anymore, nor do you have a contract with them about what it has to be used for.
And it's up to SE to make sure that enough people buy the expansion and buy playtime to make their money back and as much extra money as they think they need to do whatever they want. Therefore they pay for content (updates).

If it's not enough content for you, it's up to you to quit. But has ammount of free content really changed?

Our subs fund content.
That's how money works.
They don't throw the bank notes into an incinerator once the sub ticks over.

You pay your sub to play the game. From the point they have your money and you can connect to the server and play the content for your paid days, you're even.
They don't own you anything beside making you able to connect to servers and play whatever content they want to give you.
You don't have to decide about (now) their money. And they don't have to decide about your playtime anymore (unless User Agreements you agreed to allow that).

[Fawkes]

We can have all the hamburgers we want, but have to pay extra if we want a lobster tail that's not included with the standard buffet.

Except this gear is worse than regular gear because you can't store it or reobtain it without paying money again. It would be more like getting all the lobster tails and having to pay for the hamburger.