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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Conversely, there are plenty of people who find small purchases to be no big deal, but then when it's all added up, the totals are astronomical. There are plenty of stories of people who paid for cheap in-app purchases on mobile apps, but ended up spending thousands of dollars in the year. More often than not, you won't notice this until it's too late.
    SE isn't liable for poor spending habits. If you play within your means, spend what you set aside for you to spend- there's no reason to make this a notch against cash shop purchases. Everyone should know where they stand financially, and if you only just realized you spent thousands of dollars on a game unknowningly, you need to check your statements more.
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    Square can lose "Loyal" customers for doing literally anything. Someone might quit because they dislike the design of dungeons, or the commitment to the tomestone gearing system. They might quit because they dislike the story, or they revamped their favorite class.

    If the only moves they should make are ones that alienate no-one, that's an impossible task because anything they could do (including doing nothing) might piss somebody off.

    There's plenty of evidence from other games that cash shops like this are innocuous. WoW didn't see a massive drop off in subs because of the $25 mounts, it happened because they released an expansion with no good content.

    Unless we're about to see a massive break with industry trend, no amount of fancy dresses or dances being sold at high prices will put a meaningful dent in the game's playerbase.

    It takes a lapse in core content to scare off players, and the stuff in the cash shop just isn't core content. It's fluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    As for your points, I disagree that you need to hit all of them. I don't care about most of the cosmetics or items in the cash shop. I don't follow the monthly updates to the cash shop (or however frequent it is?) I am simply frustrated that they have them in the first place. I am sure that I am in a minority, but again, I do exist.
    No one cares about what they put into the cash shop until they add something that person cares about. For some people, glamour is everything. These people have been complaining about Mogstation items since they were added. Square just happens to be adding more items people want, so now they are getting pissed too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Conversely, there are plenty of people who find small purchases to be no big deal, but then when it's all added up, the totals are astronomical. There are plenty of stories of people who paid for cheap in-app purchases on mobile apps, but ended up spending thousands of dollars in the year. More often than not, you won't notice this until it's too late.
    That is not unique to Square Enix nor would lowering the prices have any impact. In fact, the opposite is more likely to happen. Smaller amounts tend to go by unnoticed for longer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I disagree. I understand your argument that they wanted that outfit for the price, but I disagree that it's not shady/dishonest. A subscription has expectations that it is inclusive. Further to that, many companies continue to provide unfinished games and sell the extra parts separately. This, to me at least, seems pretty shady.

    Also, I'm not sure what you are referring to with "putting aside the fluff thing".

    I just want to add that while I do find it shady, it's not really important. It's not important if they are being shady or dishonest, it is important if they appear to be dishonest or shady.
    Those expectations are entirely self made and subjective. The only assurance we are guaranteed is continual access to the game and new content via patches. That is all our subscription is intended to cover. Dishonesty would be the devs suddenly putting a stack of tomestones or raid relevant gear on the Mogstation when Yoshida has repeatedly said it will only ever contain cosmetic items that have no impact on gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
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    While I completely understand this. It won't change their mind until they see that they are losing money. Telling them that you are leaving/quitting, moving on to another game won't change the current situation. As long as there are more people buying and joining the game. It won't matter to them if few people quit (This is sad but it is how business work). As long as there is gain, it won't matter.
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    It's not the only item being sold for EUR 13.50 on Mog Station. Clearly a good amount of people are buying them. And if something is selling well, why should they stop adding more items with the same price? You can't ask people to stop buying them because they can afford it, they don't have an excuse not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    And if something is selling well, why should they stop adding more items with the same price? You can't ask people to stop buying them because they can afford it, they don't have an excuse not to.
    This is pretty much how I see the situation. SE doesn't really care if they upset people who have issue with purchasing items off the Mog Station because you're not who they're targeting with the products. A lot of people set aside money each month for their hobbies, and some people think that it's absurd that someone spent real money on something that they wouldn't themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    This is pretty much how I see the situation. SE doesn't really care if they upset people who have issue with purchasing items off the Mog Station because you're not who they're targeting with the products. A lot of people set aside money each month for their hobbies, and some people think that it's absurd that someone spent real money on something that they wouldn't themselves.
    Reminds me of my cousins. They constantly got on my case for my occasional splurges on video game stuff yet saw nothing wrong spending hundreds of dollars drinking. Both are optional things we do for fun. Money is relative and subjective. What one thinks is silly and overpriced, another won't care and is simply happy to have it.
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    I'm not supporting their prices... but if you think it's too much, just don't buy it. If you REALLY want it, then splurge the few extra dollars or pounds or whatever.
    If you can't afford it, that sucks, and I relate.
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    It's worth what people will pay for it. If nobody buys it they'll lower the price. If people are buying it at that price it's clear they disagree with the assessment that' it's too expensive. Since prices are staying the same it's obvious there are enough people on the "This is a reasonable price that I want to pay" side of the argument to convince SE to keep their prices as-is.
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