This is just appalling

[Alleo]

Blizzard's Shop
ESO's Shop

You know whats also interesting? That WoW started their cash shop one year earlier than SE and a long way into their game cycle too, yet they have barely anything in there! Compare this with SE cash shop, that has way more items in this even excluding all the seasonal stuff. I also would be kinda interested in knowing when WoW updated their cash shop the last time and how often they do that.

About the prices: Yes every mount in WoW costs more than our mounts but unlike a lot of our mounts they are all account bound. Lets say I have four alts in WoW I will pay the price for the mount once. If I have the same amount of alts in FF14 I will have to buy it four times. Suddenly its more expensive in FF14. If you only play one character than it will be cheaper but the question remains: Why make those mounts that are at the same time often just reskins of existing ones character bound? Why not account bound?

Lets not forget that you can earn all the Wow items by playing the game since you can simply buy the currency through ingame coins. Heck you can even buy playtime through ingame coins..nothing like that is possible in FF14

Also another problem is: SE prices vary a lot, especially for mounts and glamour stuff. WoW has the same prices for each category so you will know what to expect. Yet we have cash shop glamour including the hair which is cheaper than a two-pieces set without hair. How does that make sense?

And why do they have to charge so much for the seasonal stuff? One cant use the argument of "its created only for cash shop so they need to earn money" because those were ingame event items, so they already existed before they were put into the cash shop thus no extra money was needed for that step. Yet the items cost quite a bit and are one single piece too..why not make the price something like 0.50 €? You will give people the chance to get them again (even though they could have easily put them ingame..) and you might earn a little bit with each sold item..the prices right now are just pure greed..wanting that amount of money for an old seasonal item that can even be destroyed in some cases..

Big question on those that are growing sick of such threads: Why are you even posting in it? Why not just simply ignore it? You are not forced to read through that so why feel the need to take your time to post something, thus keeping the thread alive too?

Since SE is a business I will look forward to them putting stuff in there that some might consider Pay to win. I dont care about that stuff so its fine right? Lets sell houses there too since its nothing for endgame. Its not like people have different goals about their games thus someone might have glamours/pets/mounts as their ingame goal which they cant reach if they dont pay further money. But heck its only stuff with stats that is a no go right?

I mean in the end it could be worse right? Next to not getting the event items ingame the next time the event start, they could have taken away the rights to sell those items on the MB or even take away the function to be purchased again or swapped for the other gender...oh wait..

[Vespar]

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Well you can't say I didn't try to stop them from getting themselves in a tizzy over something that wont change so long as SE keeps bringing in the dough on Mogstation...
but go ahead, gripe and moan for 40 more threads with 40 more pages each.

The rest of us will be enjoying SB and our cool mogstation items that the whiners wont ever have because they're too busy doing what they do best.
*offers lozenge*

[Alleo]

The rest of us will be enjoying SB and our cool mogstation items that the whiners wont ever have because they're too busy doing what they do best.

Why even try? Why take away your time to try to change someone opinion about something that they find wrong? I mean there is discussing a point and there is trying to change someones mind because they want it in another way. This thread existing wont hurt your ability to play and enjoy FF14 since you can just ignore the topic (like how we are often told to ignore the "optional" items too).

Oh and dont worry I will have plenty of time to enjoy SB once its out since posting in this forum takes barely any time at all so I can do both. And I already own stuff from the cash shop that I mostly bought when the prices fell down. So you can be against the recent additions and/or prices and still have bought something from it. There is no simple black and white.

(Its interesting that most of the insults from us that are against cash shop and/or its prices; since the topic itself was also about their strange pricing strategy; is some calling others whales or maybe fanboys. But still that does not happen often. Yet I cant count the amount of insults that some posters throw at people that are just annoyed at something and are posting their opinion about it -whiners, children, poor- and more.)

While true I think its worth pointing out that system doesn't exist in a vacuum. You can buy Cash shop items and playtime with in game currency but the flipside of that system is you can also buy ingame gold with real world money.

You want one side of the system, your probably going to have to accept the other which means people buying Gil with real world money. Considering some of the best gear at the moment of launch for raids is crafted that gets perilously close to Buy to Win, unless they nerf the gear and screw over crafters.

You don't get to cherry pick parts of payment models you like and leave out the bits you don't. Payment models are designed in the end to ensure revenue is enough to justify the production and continued development of a game or service. There is always some form of revenue stream integrated into it.

And you can already buy ingame gold with real money in this game too. Maybe not in a legal way but its already there. And yes I would accept that side because it would give people that cant just buy all these things with their money the chance to still get them, thus collectors of glamour/mount/pets can get it without having to pay money. Also this would mean that people have to play the game to gather all the gold (yes they could buy it too but then they simply could just buy the goods for real life money anyway).

But like I already wrote it all comes down to what is important for a person. I dont care much about world first/raids so I would not care if someone buys gil with real money to buy their self better gear at the start. IMO you would not even know who got it the legitimate way anyway since you have enough people that are quite rich in FF14 that can just simply buy it from regular earned gil. People are also aready buying clears and stuff for ingame money too. So its already kinda unfair if you dont have much money as a raider since people with lots of gil can already gear fast enough, so it would not make much of a difference imo. Unlike raids and gear I do care about glamour (and I would say that a lot of the players do too) so this change would imo benefit way more people than it would hit some that might buy gil for real life money.

[Naunet]

Square Enix is not doing anything differently that other MMO companies aren't.

We've already explained at great length that yes, SE is doing things differently from other MMO companies.

Blizzard's cash shop is miniscule compared to FFXIV. All items are account-wide, and you can buy Blizzard cash shop credit with in-game gold. Likewise with ESO - all items are account-wide. I don't play it, so I'm not sure if they have a gold-cash shop exchange.

Then you can compare it to f2p MMOs, which one would think would be worse than FFXIV due to the cash shop being their primary source of income, but...

- Blade and Soul - costumes can be mailed between characters, Hongmoon Coins can be purchased with gold so that you don't have to spend any real money in the shop
- WildStar - pretty much everything (costumes, mounts, pets, dyes, etc) is unlocked account-wide, costumes being between $7-10. Everything also has an Omnibit price, which is a currency earned whenever you do something that grants experience (very easy to earn). Heck you can even purchase subscription with in-game currency.
- Rift - everything account-wide, costumes average around $8-9, cash shop credits purchasable with plat, and premium subscription purchasable with plat.
- Guild Wars 2 - everything is account-wide, Gems purchasable with in-game gold. Costumes average ~$8.

[Aramina]

Stuffs.

You can be all classes on 1 char so it not being account-bound is way way different than it would be on WoW. Also, you weren't able to buy battlenet currency with in-game gold until patch 7.2.

[Naunet]

You can be all classes on 1 char so it not being account-bound is way way different than it would be on WoW. Also, you weren't able to buy battlenet currency with in-game gold until patch 7.2.

Sure, if you want to deal with inventory nightmare and have no interest in playing varied characters. Fact of the matter is this game allows you to create alts. Doesn't matter if you can be everything on one character.

It also doesn't matter how recently Blizzard introduced the ability to purchase cash shop credit - especially in the face of the many other AAA MMOs that have allowed it for quite some time.

[maelor]

There is nothing appalling about it... AT ALL! They set a price, its stuff you don't NEED. Its your choice to buy it or not. That's the end of it. No one is forcing you to buy this stuff and it doesn't give an advantage in progression or gameplay. It's vanity and they want to make money. The prices aren't even that high.

[Bongaboi]

Haven't bought the Fuga set from Mog Station. No need when I can stick to my preferred glamour gear set of Taffeta Shawl, Southern Seas Tanga (a cheaper cash shop item), Pink Cherry Blossom HQ and Emperor's New jewelry.