Ugh...attribute points are coming back....

[Soukyuu]

One minor thing confusing me is that the Bonus 1 and Bonus 2 thing seem... odd. Like for Pugilists -- with the Blindside buff, it actually seems like Int is more valuable than Strength is, unless Strength double-dips by upping both Attack Power AND the damage from DoW (-archer) Arms.

Oh well, time to punch intelligently next patch!

Not to forget our fists of fire/earth leech MP, so INT is even more desirable...

[Ruri]

One minor thing confusing me is that the Bonus 1 and Bonus 2 thing seem... odd. Like for Pugilists -- with the Blindside buff, it actually seems like Int is more valuable than Strength is, unless Strength double-dips by upping both Attack Power AND the damage from DoW (-archer) Arms.

Oh well, time to punch intelligently next patch!

I see what you did there

[Kaizlu]

I know it's better if you can customize your character, but I must admit that at the moment the last thing I want to do is "worry" about them. Oh well, guess I'll have to check out different builds and so on.

Yep, thinking is hard!

[northernsky]

I am very grateful to have the system back in a more balanced form and I cannot understand how anyone could be against this.

I hear you, the new system looks great:

-Each point raised = 1 attribute point
-Visible (and rigid) bonus attribute cap (in the example the guy has 39 points to spend but max 23 per attribute)
-A clear indication of the effect of each stat, + a wide distribution of the benefits for the different attributes for each class
-All in all a fairly smaller, but significant amount of points to spend

Sounds like great balance to me, looking forward to be able to reallocate them in further patches so I can experiment different settings

[yukikaze_yanagi]

you didn't forget the additional elemental damage from stances right ? that work with int too

[Firon]

One minor thing confusing me is that the Bonus 1 and Bonus 2 thing seem... odd. Like for Pugilists -- with the Blindside buff, it actually seems like Int is more valuable than Strength is, unless Strength double-dips by upping both Attack Power AND the damage from DoW (-archer) Arms.

Oh well, time to punch intelligently next patch!

Strength

Attack Power
Damage dealt by puglist, gladiator, marauder, and lancer arms

Intelligence

Attack Magic Potency
Damage dealt by puglist

Both are good for pgl it seems

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I kinda see it like one free IV materia and a II~III materia. Except I can't unequip it for 1.5 mo for that class.

The real question is... will Strength help my melee attacks as a mage?

*faces against a flaming ogre in Mor Dhana while remaining party gets the tags the last gate *
me "You shall not pass!!!"
party "Fiosha! We didn't even need to aggro him, he..."
ogre "Ogre Smash!"
*ogre crushes Fiosha to death*

[Powercow]

I kinda see it like one free IV materia and a II~III materia. Except I can't unequip it for 1.5 mo for that class.

The real question is... will Strength help my melee attacks as a mage?

*faces against a flaming ogre in Mor Dhana while remaining party gets the tags the last gate *
me "You shall not pass!!!"
party "Fiosha! We didn't even need to aggro him, he..."
ogre "Ogre Smash!"
*ogre crushes Fiosha to death*

Amusing that may be, but the tables state that Mind and Piety will increase your autoattack damage for Con and Thaum.

[syntaxlies]

i think you'll be able to save the points for each class so it wont be like before were get get nerfed if you play a different class.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

Amusing that may be, but the tables state that Mind and Piety will increase your autoattack damage for Con and Thaum.

Drat~ will have to wait til' 1.21 to fix this.

Achievement: Mightiest mage alive :/

I wonder what happened to Spirit and Phantom Dart? Or if those types of actions are still present. We'll see.