Positionals in the Open World

[Shurrikhan]

You should be able to get all positionals without a tank. Just stand as close as you can to the enemy's center, W through and instantly hit the back-attack as you're passing, or at a diagonal (WA/WD) and instantly hit the flank attack. I can say from experience that this works even at 300 ms latency, quite reliably.

[Eloah]

off topic

What? This relates more to your off-topic post. Why would someone say that? Clearly they have no idea how languages evolve and words gain/create new meanings and context. I know there is a term for "creating" a new word, like "positionals"; I don't know it, I am not an English major, though I have used it my Whole life, but even I know we can create new word to describe things in an instant. Thats why endings like ish, esc, ette, ite, etc. exist. Just look at this game Sophic or Zurvanite arent "words" that I know of, but i know what they mean regardless.

Also for this threads topic, I think basic targets in the field not needing positionals would be great, but if they can die fast enough its fine I guess.

[CatStarPrime]

You should be able to get all positionals without a tank. Just stand as close as you can to the enemy's center, W through and instantly hit the back-attack as you're passing, or at a diagonal (WA/WD) and instantly hit the flank attack. I can say from experience that this works even at 300 ms latency, quite reliably.

This. You can hit your positionals as DRG, MNK, as long as you have good positioning and time it well.

[kattzkitti]

This. You can hit your positionals as DRG, MNK, as long as you have good positioning and time it well.

You shouldn't need to do that though, positionals should only be a thing in actual group content (dungeons, raids, etc). Although ultimately, positionals shouldn't be a thing anyways. It's just needlessly complex mechanics for the sake of it, to make it appear like the combat is deep. It isn't though, it's superficial fluff that just makes actual gameplay a chore.

[myahele]

Yeah, open world mobs (except maybe hunts) should be be similar to how PotD mobs lack positionals.

I think they mentioned a shared role skill "True North" that removes positional requirements for 15s. That should help a bit once Stormblood comes

[Paladinleeds]

I think for solo instanced content, the positional requirements should be got rid of. OR... you should have an NPC tank that is an aggro overlord (I've seen this a fair bit in aforementioned solo instanced content) to handle tanking so you can focus on the positionals.

[Kahnom]

You should be able to get all positionals without a tank. Just stand as close as you can to the enemy's center, W through and instantly hit the back-attack as you're passing, or at a diagonal (WA/WD) and instantly hit the flank attack. I can say from experience that this works even at 300 ms latency, quite reliably.

As ex-300 ping player,i can confirm this.
Kinda tricky but possible as long as you ain't run out of patience.

[Shurrikhan]

As ex-300 ping player,i can confirm this.
Kinda tricky but possible as long as you ain't run out of patience.

(@300ms)
Just don't move til you see the white flash of that GCD refresh, and make sure the hit is damn near simultaneous... >.>

[Theodric]

I'd actually be pretty fine if they removed positional requirements altogether - and just made enemies a little tougher to compensate. I do not see that happening, though.

[CatStarPrime]

I have RP / character personality issues with required flank and back attacks - "There is no HONOR attacking from behind!!!"

The chore/mechanics of having to work the timing, solo? I never have thought of that as a burden on my play. It just is.

(My ping has always been 77-80 ms, before and after)

Watching Squee make the low-level content easier and easier over the years (changing the Aethernet names so people can find places with ease [Coral Tower vs Marauder's Guild etc]; bypassing the L5 gear checks; giving out a complete set of right-side accessories which are good until L18 or so; Hall of the Novice gear; other items); was the original learning curve, really that steep?