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  1. #341
    Player Kaisinel's Avatar
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    Cold Steel'
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
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    Kisai likely won't be able to participate in SB content. Despite their self-imposed (limited) experience with only WHM, they still after all this time haven't accumulated enough scripture to jump 70-80 ilvls in any piece. They're more likely to continue to stagnate. Or have done any relevant basic dungeons to improve anywhere.
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    Last edited by Kaisinel; 06-02-2017 at 02:45 AM.

  2. #342
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    Ama_Hamada's Avatar
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    Ama Hamada
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Waves to the thread

    About your so called downtime from spamming Regen and Medica II

    I told you so.


    Now look at all the threads complaining about being forced to play WHM like it was designed in the first place.
    I do not know what this is even talking about. However it points out YOUR TOXICITY to this thread in ignoring what people are trying to tell you. We posted a video what we mean by healer large downtime, we explained that you can't enter current content because of your gear and yet you play the victim card? At this point I have to say you are trolling =/
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisinel View Post
    Kisai likely won't be able to participate in SB content. Despite their self-imposed (limited) experience with only WHM, they still after all this time haven't accumulated enough scripture to jump 70-80 ilvls in any piece. They're more likely to continue to stagnate. Or have done any relevant basic dungeons to improve anywhere.
    Prob be one of those undergeared people because the game lets you enter "leveling" duties regardless of gear and wonder why she keeps getting kicks or spaming full time healing.

    Oh wait she can't even finish HW from being gear gated, nvm ><
    its i230 btw, KisaiTenshi, you need i230 to clear the MSQ or the game simply does not let you.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 06-02-2017 at 03:00 AM.

  3. #343
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    Hikuras's Avatar
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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Those WHM changes pissed alot of people off.. I don't expect them to stay behind those changes for long. The playerbase is already up at arms and it's not even out yet.
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  4. #344
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hikuras View Post
    Those WHM changes pissed alot of people off.. I don't expect them to stay behind those changes for long. The playerbase is already up at arms and it's not even out yet.
    Yet another of the million issues that could be averted with a PTR!
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  5. #345
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    joannaluttrell's Avatar
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    Simara D'antono
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 26
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Yet another of the million issues that could be averted with a PTR!
    Unfortunately, even having a PTR wouldn't ensure a lack of issues. (see: Warcraft has a PTR and there are still constant class complaints).
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  6. #346
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    I like how someone tried to be reasonable on the page previous and was summarily ignored. Fun bunch.
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  7. #347
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by joannaluttrell View Post
    Unfortunately, even having a PTR wouldn't ensure a lack of issues. (see: Warcraft has a PTR and there are still constant class complaints).
    Still would have less issues, play testing is insanely valuable in game dev and the more players you can use to test the better.
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  8. #348
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    Simara D'antono
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    Thaumaturge Lv 26
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Still would have less issues, play testing is insanely valuable in game dev and the more players you can use to test the better.
    Maybe, maybe not. I am not against a PTR, but I have been around the block too many times on too many games to put much faith in it actually being that great of a preventative measure
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  9. #349
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    I like how someone tried to be reasonable on the page previous and was summarily ignored. Fun bunch.
    Couldn't the sarcastic quips from you be considered ironic?
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  10. #350
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbad View Post
    What everyone is arguing about is actually the same thing. Lazy players. Let's look at the problems people have described that applies to all jobs, and not just healers.
    Thank you for the good and well-thought post!

    I agree that this debate - on the middle ground - boils down to what is expected from a player in group content, and I also believe that this can be defined in a way that isn't tied to any particular job or role. What I've always argued is that each party member should try to actively participate in a way that's most beneficial to the group.

    But I think we should also be able to discuss what's good healer play and what's good AST, SCH and WHM play, because that's beneficial to people playing those jobs. In this thread we've been discussing healer DPS and the best way of playing a healer job. Some people may ask "what about those bad DD / tank players", and if this thread was about DDs or tanks, we would argue for the same thing: active participation, supporting your group as well as you can and efficient play.
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