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    Richard_BG's Avatar
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    Tsubaki Nakatsu
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    some people should re-read the new actions i think...mrd don't have anymore storm's path spam, and thm lost sacrifice, meaning it can only heal with cnj's cure (and the gimp of the case)
    ∟MRD WS 7 - AoE attack.
    Combo: MRD WS 6, Bonus: Consumes all TP to increase damage when your HP is below 50%.
    That being said HOPEFULLY SE has learned its lesson early on and balanced most of the classes semi-close to eachother and AoE spam wont be the best way to handle adds. But I wouldn't hold your breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Look at you... Just when I thought I liked Carraway more (and Fusional A LOT LESS)... Richard... you're my new favorite

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    Daddy Dufresh
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    some people should re-read the new actions i think...mrd don't have anymore storm's path spam, and thm lost sacrifice, meaning it can only heal with cnj's cure (and the gimp of the case)
    Yeah i love MRD now but im sure it is changing big time
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    It will only be x6 MRD if the moogles are easily killed. If they must be slept, bound or by any other means paralyzed AoE damage might not be primary factor in killing them.

    Which is why I think Shadowbind might get some really good use in this fight. Move them to the edge > Shadowbind > move to other edge of arena to avoid damage from the bound ones.

    Also seems like the mini-moogles work in conjunction with Moggle XII, so they might actually be something like the nails from ifrit to weaken Moggle himself and make him killable? And to mix it up from the Ifrit fight it would be interesting to have them do the "big move" each time a Moogle is killed (but gets weaker as more and more moogles die). That would counter act an AoE spam method, because you'd be dead if it spammed the big move right back lol.

    This is all speculation for the most part obviously, take it as a grain of salt if you like.
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    Pulseczar's Avatar
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    The music is great—but the battle looks very boring. Hopefully it will be different when actually playing it.
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    It might act the same but the strength might be way off (just like how the "new" sentinel doesn't block 60% of that magic anymore; based on the video)
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    Greil Armstrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_BG View Post
    That being said HOPEFULLY SE has learned its lesson early on and balanced most of the classes semi-close to eachother and AoE spam wont be the best way to handle adds. But I wouldn't hold your breath.
    GLA Abl. 6 Increases target's enmity. Traits may trigger an AoE and a chance to inflict Blind.
    ∟GLA WS 8 Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
    ∟PGL WS 4 Self AoE AoE attack.
    Combo: PGL WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Slow.
    ∟LNC WS 2 Self AoE AoE attack.
    Combo: LNC WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Stun.
    ∟ARC WS 3 Target AoE Deals damage to all enemies within range of the target. Low accuracy.
    Combo: ARC WS 2, Bonus: Increased accuracy.
    ∟ARC WS 4 Frontal AoE Delivers a close-range, cone-shaped attack in the target's direction.
    Combo: ARC WS 1, Bonus: Fivefold attack on target.

    Why take 6 mrd when other classes can do the same ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greil View Post
    GLA Abl. 6 Increases target's enmity. Traits may trigger an AoE and a chance to inflict Blind.
    ∟GLA WS 8 Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
    ∟PGL WS 4 Self AoE AoE attack.
    Combo: PGL WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Slow.
    ∟LNC WS 2 Self AoE AoE attack.
    Combo: LNC WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Stun.
    ∟ARC WS 3 Target AoE Deals damage to all enemies within range of the target. Low accuracy.
    Combo: ARC WS 2, Bonus: Increased accuracy.
    ∟ARC WS 4 Frontal AoE Delivers a close-range, cone-shaped attack in the target's direction.
    Combo: ARC WS 1, Bonus: Fivefold attack on target.

    Why take 6 mrd when other classes can do the same ?
    AoE =/= Same. Circle Slash/Wide Volley =/= Storm's Path. Until we know how they are balancing the class abilities you might as well go off of 1.19 bests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Look at you... Just when I thought I liked Carraway more (and Fusional A LOT LESS)... Richard... you're my new favorite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greil View Post
    GLA Abl. 6 Increases target's enmity. Traits may trigger an AoE and a chance to inflict Blind.
    ∟GLA WS 8 Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
    ∟PGL WS 4 Self AoE AoE attack.
    Combo: PGL WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Slow.
    ∟LNC WS 2 Self AoE AoE attack.
    Combo: LNC WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Stun.
    ∟ARC WS 3 Target AoE Deals damage to all enemies within range of the target. Low accuracy.
    Combo: ARC WS 2, Bonus: Increased accuracy.
    ∟ARC WS 4 Frontal AoE Delivers a close-range, cone-shaped attack in the target's direction.
    Combo: ARC WS 1, Bonus: Fivefold attack on target.

    Why take 6 mrd when other classes can do the same ?
    i can answer that.
    extra defense which those other classes dont have + lots of DD. why take anything else?
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    Last edited by Dreadnought; 12-12-2011 at 07:18 PM.
    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    viion's Avatar
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    Sky Box
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Some things incase you did not notice
    1. Music is a recomposition of "Nightmare Before Christmas", which fits perfectly, if you think about it ingame and real life, amazing song.
    2. THM has [SIZE="7"]3715[/SIZE] MP
    3. ARC has 2326 MP
    4. ARC doesnt have a choco? lol
    5. The new ? icon, dont know what it is,
    6. The broken icon wont be in game its in all vids
    7. There are v2 icons above it
    8. No more Shell magic (or they not using it? doubtful)
    9. GLA has almost [SIZE="6"]5k[/SIZE] hp
    10. New "Sword+" Icon as an effect on some people, be new skill?
    11. New skills, (Arch row 3, skill 5, 0:34 time)
    12. Almost everyone is using Food

    I wasn't very pumped for this, but now I am, looks very cool. But I do feel it will turn into a MRD smash. We will have to see now that attribute selection is back.
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Music is a recomposition of "Nightmare Before Christmas", which fits perfectly, if you think about it ingame and real life, amazing song.
    I thought the same thing when I first heard this, some parts of the song sound almost identical. But yea, it's the moogle theme though. :P
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