Gathering in SB worry, HP/ def/ GP scaling. Deep vigor reexamining?

[Hamada]

You are making a claim that goes counter to how the game is supposed to work. You also still haven't mentioned if it has happened multiple times, or if it only was that one time. A video would serve to prove your claim and/or let people figure out what caused it to happen. I was just making a sugestion, so please don't direct your frustrations at me!

Why is this hard to understand??? I DID NOT KNOW!~! I did not know i needed proof, it is too late now. If I had known people would be attacking me with toxicity reporting an issue, yes I would of took a screenshot of the log to show the same order I typed out. I submitted reports to GMs reporting it as MPK disruption at the time, and happened twice or 3 times, i do not remember. In cast you forgot, as said in earlier posts, I do not gather anymore because it is not worth the time doing, outside getting Volcanic Rock Salt.

[Mholito]

Why is this hard to understand??? I DID NOT KNOW!~! I did not know i needed proof, it is too late now. If I had known people would be attacking me with toxicity reporting an issue, yes I would of took a screenshot of the log to show the same order I typed out. I submitted reports to GMs reporting it as MPK disruption at the time, and happened twice or 3 times, i do not remember. In cast you forgot, as said in earlier posts, I do not gather anymore because it is not worth the time doing, outside getting Volcanic Rock Salt.

I can understand that you are frustrated, but why are you so angry at me?! All I'm doing is trying to help you.

[Jkap_Goat]

Never seen anyone ever use that tactic to kill another player at a gathering node...must be a Balmung thing. Sounds like a wonderful community...

Also, there's always a place to land and stealth that's no more than 10 seconds from any node you're trying to reach.

It happened to me at the Diadiem, some people were really salty and harrased me because I changed from a DPS to my AST even though there was two healers present. We did just fine and cleared the mission quickly as I was DPSing and mostly in cleric stance, well when i was doing nodes and gathering​ collectables for red scrips after this mission was over, the tank found me, and pulled a monster towards me and got me killed, then he left. It happens

[Hamada]

I can understand that you are frustrated, but why are you so angry at me?! All I'm doing is trying to help you.

I was just answering your question why I do not have proof, I did not expect people lash out on me for posting an experience. Nice seeing someone else posting a MPK story that it can happen.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I was just answering your question why I do not have proof, I did not expect people lash out on me for posting an experience. Nice seeing someone else posting a MPK story that it can happen.

No one "lashed out" at you. They simply said that it shouldn't happen as the game is not designed that way, hence telling you to report it as a bug. You got all defensive and jumped down their throats with "you can't tell me what I saw"

[Alien_Gamer]

Its not supposed to happen, if it does then its a bug, report it and move on. Bugs happen, nothing to get salty over.

As for the gathering skills, there are uses for deep vigor. I used it almost daily for HQ gathering and GC turn ins while leveling up; I still use it occasionally for some things. I much preferred that method over RNG because my luck sucks and it seemed to be faster than the other skills. You may not like it and chose not to use it but that doesn't make it useless.

I've also never had a problem with my GP once I reached 600 GP. I hit a node as soon as it spawn, fly to the next one and wait for my GP to recover, hit that one shortly before it times out, chug a cordial and repeat the process. Its actually a waste of GP for me because of how much the cordial gives but unless I mess up, I'm able to hit a node every 2 hours. I'm not sure where your problem is but it is definitely possible to hit each node. Maybe practice your timing? Use your skills faster?

[Hamada]

No one "lashed out" at you. They simply said that it shouldn't happen as the game is not designed that way, hence telling you to report it as a bug. You got all defensive and jumped down their throats with "you can't tell me what I saw"

This is wrong, that is not what happened:

There's one constant and many variables here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...vBForum_Thread

Try to find the constant. (and recommended read).

This poster is being beyond insulting to me and you sit there telling me they did no wrong?

Its not supposed to happen, if it does then its a bug, report it and move on. Bugs happen, nothing to get salty over.

As for the gathering skills, there are uses for deep vigor. I used it almost daily for HQ gathering and GC turn ins while leveling up; I still use it occasionally for some things. I much preferred that method over RNG because my luck sucks and it seemed to be faster than the other skills. You may not like it and chose not to use it but that doesn't make it useless.

I've also never had a problem with my GP once I reached 600 GP. I hit a node as soon as it spawn, fly to the next one and wait for my GP to recover, hit that one shortly before it times out, chug a cordial and repeat the process. Its actually a waste of GP for me because of how much the cordial gives but unless I mess up, I'm able to hit a node every 2 hours. I'm not sure where your problem is but it is definitely possible to hit each node. Maybe practice your timing? Use your skills faster?

How meny nodes are you cramming in your gather cycle? If you are waiting for a pop, that tells me it is not enough. The reason I bring this up is because if 60-70 craffted stuff is going to go overboard with these time nodes again, while still using materials for new stuff from 2.0 nodes and 3.0 nodes, it is going to beyond too much with time gating things. That is why I bought that up.

As far as deep vigor , its useless outside of leves. I do not understand why it exists in the game and why people are defending it. It is too hard to make use of it because of GP limitations and GP regeneration. I can make use out of featherfoot when a tank dies to help tank too, does not mean it is useful (and getting removed from the game in 4.0 I believe) If they are going to revamp and taking a closer look at battle rotations and such what about crafting and gathering?

No I am not salty over a bug, I am salty how people are addressing me over it.

[Alien_Gamer]

One node every two hour, I get every node for the red scrip turn ins each hour. Once I passed 600 GP to actually make good use of the timed nodes, I never felt the time gate. I'd expect SB to have more of the same timed nodes as HW.

I never used Deep Vigor for leves, i always used it outside of leves. Considering I got a third of my xp from GC turn ins using it, I would hardly call it useless. People are defending it because it is a useful skill, it gives a garaunteed HQ gather when used right. For some people thats better than the RNG for other methods. With cordials I've never felt a restriction on when I can use it, between cordials and normal regeneration I tend to have enough to do whatever rotation I need at each node.

[alimdia]

This poster is being beyond insulting to me and you sit there telling me they did no wrong?

Hamada, you keep claiming that the community is toxic, I'm pointing at you that you're part of the problem, you create and maintain a lot of that toxicity, but you don't want to see it. If you seem to get into an argument in the majority of threads you participate in the conclusion is not that half the forums have something against you.

If you really think these forums are too toxic and you want more people to post here, a good start would be to not turn so defensive every time someone disagrees with you.

But honestly this is besides the topic, if you don't want to take the advice then so be it.

On topic, just submit a bug report, your MPK report isn't gonna do anything.