Warriors losing bloodbath

[CupDeNoodles]

So I'm a bit confused at the direction they are moving in with warrior. I always assumed that a warriors niche was high HP and self healing.

If warriors lose blood bath will we be gaining other means of self healing?

If we don't get new means of self healing will we instead get better damage mitigation overall?

If warriors lose said niche what then makes them different than the other tanks?

[Belhi]

You may be getting a new healing skill. We don't know WARs full kit yet.

You will be getting at least one better mitigation skill in Bulwark. That said, WAR really isn't lacking much in mitigation as it is.

Niche? Fel Cleave? I seriously doubt WAR will lose its place as strongest dps output tank.

[EusisLandale]

Self healing in general seems to be getting cut back a bit. An apparent lack of Bloodbath for all, Warriors losing access to Second Wind, I think Mercy Stroke was gone too, no Stoneskin for Paladins.
I would assume it'll probably end up with Paladin as the sturdiest tank, Warrior as the most damaging, and Dark Knight falling between

[CoolCat]

Is there an article or something that gives a general idea what tanks loses or gain? Haven't kept up with many news lately before expansion.

[SaitoHikari]

Is there an article or something that gives a general idea what tanks loses or gain? Haven't kept up with many news lately before expansion.

No, because everyone that went to the media tours the past two weeks are basically under NDA to not reveal ANYTHING new until the NDA is lifted. Including the day the NDA will actually be lifted.

It's really, really dumb, and we're pretty much in the dark until that happens. Hopefully sometime this weekend.

[Shougun]

I was wondering if with the new Dark Knight meter being called the blood gauage that perhaps the self healing would head more towards them, all the blood sort of consumption theme they didnt have as much before.. maybe?

Obviously in the end we just have to wait and see what happened. *rocks back and forth*

[Laerune]

From what I have seen in the Live Letter (Ninja's Shadow Fang, gets a slash debuff added to it aswell) some skills will merged toghter, I would not be suprised to see Bloodbath merged with another skill.

[bswpayton]

So I'm a bit confused at the direction they are moving in with warrior. I always assumed that a warriors niche was high HP and self healing.

If warriors lose blood bath will we be gaining other means of self healing?

If we don't get new means of self healing will we instead get better damage mitigation overall?

If warriors lose said niche what then makes them different than the other tanks?

judging from yosi hot bar warriors lose foresight, bloodbath, fracture, the ability to smoothly change stances without losing anything, mercy stroke, ir, seems all jobs lost a few things what im thinkin is they picked the wrong skills as considered button bloat. And I wouldnt say tanks are losng self heals as clemecy on paly cost even less mp and is almost spamable its truely strange what they are doing.

[CupDeNoodles]

Niche? Fel Cleave? I seriously doubt WAR will lose its place as strongest dps output tank.

While I like the thought of putting out good damage as a warrior I was more leaning towards the Defiance side of things. The ability to outlast other tanks in certain situations by being able to self heal through the use of blood bath, inner beast and the others to some extent. Or just self healing for the sake of freeing up the healer to DPS a bit.

I don't like the idea of losing my self healing for a possible boost in DPS. Honestly if that's to be the case I'm not sure I will continue to play warrior unless the gain to DPS out weighs the lack of self healing. I also absolutely despise the MP management that comes with paladin and dark knight so I won't switch to either of those.

[Belhi]

While I like the thought of putting out good damage as a warrior I was more leaning towards the Defiance side of things. The ability to outlast other tanks in certain situations by being able to self heal through the use of blood bath, inner beast and the others to some extent. Or just self healing for the sake of freeing up the healer to DPS a bit.

I don't like the idea of losing my self healing for a possible boost in DPS. Honestly if that's to be the case I'm not sure I will continue to play warrior unless the gain to DPS out weighs the lack of self healing. I also absolutely despise the MP management that comes with paladin and dark knight so I won't switch to either of those.

Warriors will still have the highest health pools and the new inner beast bar probably means WARs will be able to save up enough inner beast bar to use two Inner Beasts in a row. They will have their solid mitigation and they are most likely still going to have their other self heal.

Frankly WARs are in HW are rather unbalanced. They have little in the way of weaknesses and a lot of strengths over the other two tanks. One way or another, unless they aren't going to balance the tanks, either the other tanks are going to be pulled up to be on par or WAR is going to be brought down. Bloodbath isn't a real loss against the other tanks since both other tanks could get it anyway, though in a weakened form. The WAR cant be the best at almost everything.