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    E'rock Lledo
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    This subject can be so draining.. I'm glad to see so many fair-minded posters on this subject. I want SE to make the game THEY want to make. I would hate to see them forced to add or keep something from being added. Let them tell the story they want to tell. I hate when developers change what they envision for their game because of political reasons. Must politics, virtue signaling, appeasement, sjw, etc etc reach it's way into everything? It makes everything it touches unbearable. Let's just relax and have fun. If certain publishers develop games in a way that you like, support them. If not, find someone else who does. Forcing things takes the genuineness out of it. When things happen naturally it is much more enjoyable imo.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Guess why they speak only using "we".
    Couldn't that just be the royal "we" though?

    ...Not that they really even seem to have a lower half at any rate, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Why? Personnaly I hate when it feels like an obligation, why do we HAVE TO have a prominent LGBT character in the storyline?
    That's why I don't like being rattached to the LGBT community, they always wanna be put in front like "hey look at us we're different and we like ourselves".
    This is the argument of people who don't want to see any LGBT representation at all. Even when a character DOES get introduced, they claim it's "virtue signalling" or "pandering". It's not about "hey look at us!" It's about wanting to be able to see worlds where people like you are part of the fabric of the story just as much as heterosexual or cis people are.

    From your post, it sounds like you identify as one of those letters in the acronym. You should know better.
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    I'm not against having any "minority" represented - but why do we feel there is a need for any "minority" focused character, be it race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. If it makes sense, it makes sense - I don't get the "we need this minority represented because we don't have one yet" mentality at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    I don't know, man. I mean, firstly, I am gay myself. ~
    Besides, have you seen all those eternally-shirtless Roegadyn and Man-cats, and bikini-clad warriors of light RP'ing with each other? There are plenty of gay main characters

    [Edit] Aaaand I just saw who the topic creator is :P I'll leave my thoughts anyway
    Aphlinaud too at least we know is straight, and that one white mage in the warriors of darkness (so sayeth the lorebook). Plus Emmanellain de Fortemps, his father and the Archbishop. These characters have all had their romantic interests touched on in one way or another, at least a little bit.

    You're absolutely right it's mostly a background issue. Characters are far more concerned with Primals, the Empire and the general fate of the world than their dating life. That said, I also hardly think the world end if they gave similar small nods in the other direction.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    This is the argument of people who don't want to see any LGBT representation at all. Even when a character DOES get introduced, they claim it's "virtue signalling" or "pandering". It's not about "hey look at us!" It's about wanting to be able to see worlds where people like you are part of the fabric of the story just as much as heterosexual or cis people are.

    From your post, it sounds like you identify as one of those letters in the acronym. You should know better.
    Basically if a character is introduced and we immediately know he is part of the LGBT, it's either:
    1) he/she comes with his/her mate and happen to be in a relationship for a long time, which is totally fine
    2) he/she has the need to absolutely talk about its sexuality, which is something I couldn't give less care.

    And yes I'm the G, is it a matter? Don't we have the right to dislike the like of us?
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    Last edited by Arutan; 05-28-2017 at 04:25 AM.

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    Sure lets just say Cid is homosexual.

    Is it important? No.
    Does he have to show it off? No.
    Do we need proof otherwise in order to assume stuff about him? No.
    Should he be here due to his importance in being our main supplier of deus ex machina-machines? Yes.



    Problem solved.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Basically if a character is introduced and we immediately know he is part of the LGBT, it's either:
    1) he/she comes with his/her mate and happen to be in a relationship for a long time, which is totally fine
    2) he/she has the need to absolutely talk about its sexuality, which is something I couldn't give less care.

    And yes I'm the G, is it a matter? Don't we have the right to not like the like of us?
    Could also be a lover spurned thing. Imagine some Sharlayan Sunseeker coming over to the Scions and Y'shtola mentions she used to have a thing for him, but that he was more interested in only a platonic relationship with women? Kind of subtle, but it doesn't need to get more in-depth than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    Sure lets just say Cid is homosexual.

    Is it important? No.
    Does he have to show it off? No.
    Do we need proof otherwise in order to assume stuff about him? No.
    Should he be here due to his importance in being our main supplier of deus ex machina-machines? Yes.



    Problem solved.
    Lmao, tho if people were assuming things about you that aren't true you wouldn't like (except people assuming gender, keep going guys let make them understand there only is 2 gender in the genetic.)
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Could also be a lover spurned thing. Imagine some Sharlayan Sunseeker coming over to the Scions and Y'shtola mentions she used to have a thing for him, but that he was more interested in only a platonic relationship with women? Kind of subtle, but it doesn't need to get more in-depth than that.
    Why does this particular thing have to be hidden?

    No one is EVER shy about presenting het relationships. No one batted an eye at Urianger and Moenbryda's courtship, but I can guarantee that if Moenbryda had been male, people would have screamed that it was pandering.
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