This is exactly what I paraphrased. Instead of supporting your claim that piety is better than sps via a reasonable discussion as to what you get out piety, you instead attack her credibility over some other issue. I.e. ad hominem. My point stands.Try again Mhaeric here's the real conversation...
1. (Random Poster) You melded piety on a caster!? I think my mind just exploded
2. (Me) Absolutely... It's why I can do 5 Fire IV's instead of 4 Fire IVs as a BLM, and have 10.5k MP where other SMNs only have 9.5k, ie a full Ruin 3 more than they do.
3. (Neela)
I got two builds for my smn the raid one with 1270 crit 590 det 746 ss and a casual time stasis build with 830 crit 615 det 1250 ss. even with 1250 ss I never felt the need of extra piety one more fire 4 or ruin 3 isnt worth the loss in crit/ss for more mp. although I like exotic builds please don't spread that piety is the stat to go for caster (smn)... it definitely isnt and will never be a primary of the casters secondaries : o
4. (Me)
....Says the person who was *shocked* people used Ruin 3 outsided of Trance in the first place... who apparently didn't realize you actually CAN use it out of Trance and be doing constant 200 potency single target damage... instead of 80 potency single target damage. No wonder YOU don't think you need Piety gear.
And by the way that's not Ad Hominim... its from another thread Neela and I got into it on. Where she didn't know people were using Ruin 3 outside of trance now... like it was the new thing. The game changed... and now more people have the MP to use it outside of Trance.


Yeah.... but it's also true... if you never realized people used Ruin 3 outside of trance nowadays... of COURSE you're going to think Piety gear is useless for a SMN and never account for the total package of Ruin 3 spam. Because Ruin 1 and Ruin 2 cost very little MP to cast...
If you never use it outside of DWT... then you'll never worry about MP anyway. But of course.... if you're maintaining Ruin 3 spam... its a different story. Because then you just might fall short at some critical moment so it would actually be a serious consideration. (Aka... the way the game is played now... changed)
BUT... all of that is beside the point... SMN damage and gearing is not the point of the thread...
.....its supposed to be about BLMs and their melds... Not SMN ... so irrelevent anyway
its not done until you stop lying >: )Yeah.... but it's also true... if you never realized people used Ruin 3 outside of trance nowadays... of COURSE you're going to think Piety gear is useless for a SMN and never account for the total package of Ruin 3 spam. Because Ruin 1 and Ruin 2 cost very little MP to cast...
If you never use it outside of DWT... then you'll never worry about MP anyway. But of course.... if you're maintaining Ruin 3 spam... its a different story. Because then you just might fall short at some critical moment so it would actually be a serious consideration. (Aka... the way the game is played now... changed)
Talking about SMN ... so irrelevent anyway
you are such a fucking lier... it was ME who told YOU that smns use ruin lll out of trance nowadays on your first appearance in this forum (btw talking about being outdated - in the same conversation you stated to use bliz2 on mobs so mr. state of the modern art tell me who's outdated?) - I even quoted the posts in this thread.but you didn't take a note and still spread this fucking rumor... I am really really curious if you are that dumb or if you just play the dumbness.... other smn user in this forum already know that I got a fable for high ss - there where plenty of discussions about that. and what do you think is the main reason I go for max ss on one of my builds? right reducing cast time of hard casts -> oh well ruin lll got a hard cast oh wonder... so in fact a ss build is a ruin spam build with strong dot & egi dmg but a bit lack in crit & crit multiplyer. you don't know a shit about me and my "touch" in playing smn in different builds with different stats and focus'. not enough though... you don't know a shit about smns at all in general.And by the way that's not Ad Hominim... its from another thread Neela and I got into it on. Where she didn't know people were using Ruin 3 outside of trance now... like it was the new thing. The game changed... and now more people have the MP to use it outside of Trance.
lmao... "aka the way the game is played now"... smns are playing so since the ruin lll buff months ago - a time you didn't even started your smn. you still think that its your discovery to use ruin lll out of trance do u? u can't be serious about that... The reason why I posted my builds is to make a point: even with 1250 ss (which provides a ruin lll and dot hardcasttime of 2,22 secs) im not running out of mp WHILE using ruin lll oot. (adjusting the rota its even possible to go through a9s without downtimes f.e.) if you need piety for smn, your mp-management is just poor. #fact
and it's sad that even now after others pointed arguments out you don't seem to get the whole problem with your choice of words and behavior if someone got an own opinion - which actually stays in contrast to yours. so its not just between you and me but between you and everybody else who says "you are wrong".
#LearningYouAre #youngPadawan.
Last edited by Neela; 05-31-2017 at 07:15 PM.
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