And you guys were probably the ones who never used Ruin 3 outside of Dreadwyrm either I take it?

The ones who were using Ruin 2 and Ruin 1?

... well ok whatever floats your boat.

That said for everyone elses... Don't listen to these boneheads... go out and do it yourself... see if it ACTUALLY works...

... and don't just do what the manual says... it's probably wrong or old outdated techniques that no longer apply... or even applied back then.

Or the people that came up with them are so caught up in the minutiae they can't see the big picture... and didn't realize shaving an extra 10% wasn't worth the 100% you could have.