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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Try again Mhaeric here's the real conversation...

    1. (Random Poster) You melded piety on a caster!? I think my mind just exploded

    2. (Me) Absolutely... It's why I can do 5 Fire IV's instead of 4 Fire IVs as a BLM, and have 10.5k MP where other SMNs only have 9.5k, ie a full Ruin 3 more than they do.

    3. (Neela)
    I got two builds for my smn the raid one with 1270 crit 590 det 746 ss and a casual time stasis build with 830 crit 615 det 1250 ss. even with 1250 ss I never felt the need of extra piety one more fire 4 or ruin 3 isnt worth the loss in crit/ss for more mp. although I like exotic builds please don't spread that piety is the stat to go for caster (smn)... it definitely isnt and will never be a primary of the casters secondaries : o

    4. (Me)
    ....Says the person who was *shocked* people used Ruin 3 outsided of Trance in the first place... who apparently didn't realize you actually CAN use it out of Trance and be doing constant 200 potency single target damage... instead of 80 potency single target damage. No wonder YOU don't think you need Piety gear.



    And by the way that's not Ad Hominim... its from another thread Neela and I got into it on. Where she didn't know people were using Ruin 3 outside of trance now... like it was the new thing. The game changed... and now more people have the MP to use it outside of Trance.
    This is exactly what I paraphrased. Instead of supporting your claim that piety is better than sps via a reasonable discussion as to what you get out piety, you instead attack her credibility over some other issue. I.e. ad hominem. My point stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    snippy snip
    I wanted to check your logs to compare them to other summoners and see if your extra ruinIII is worth the lost crit, but you don't have any logs on fflogs.



    To OP:
    It was said before, but I want to add a little bit:
    Best choice is to wait für stormblood to hit, because you will get new gear and can't get materia once melded back.

    But! Blackmage will most likely still need a lot of spellspeed and crit (on pieces you can't meld spellspeed on) so it might be a good idea to buy some materia now while they are still cheap on the marketboard.
    Of course just in case you don't have any/enough already and it is really cheap on your server.
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 05-31-2017 at 05:36 PM.
    I don't know, man.

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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    The logic here is very poor.
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    Love my friend. Love.
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    I really wouldn't try arguing with this Silverquick individual. If you have different opinions from them, they'll just tell you you're "way out of touch with reality" and "probably don't even play this game." .___. Believe me. Not to mention all they've done is derailed this thread, and contributed absolutely no helpful advice to the OP.

    Trust me. Just save your words.

    EDIT: And wow. Just seeing now all the typos I made in my materia suggestion to the OP. .__. Need to stop posting here when I'm too sleep deprived to even spell correctly. XD OP, I forgot to add in my original suggestion: start with maximizing as much Spell Speed as possible in your gear, and anywhere you can't meld Spell Speed, meld Crit. BLM stat weights (at least for the next couple of weeks) are SpSpeed > Crit.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-31-2017 at 07:43 PM.
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    of course you dont post anything on fflogs - if you would, u (and everyone else) would see that you are way behind others with your broken theorycrafting bs. #selfprotection #stayinginmydreamworld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    of course you dont post anything on fflogs - if you would, u (and everyone else) would see that you are way behind others with your broken theorycrafting bs. #selfprotection #stayinginmydreamworld
    Off Topic... BLM thread about BLM stats...

    You already assisted in derailing it... I already apologized... you need to too.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    You already assisted in derailing it... I already apologized... you need to too.
    fuck off (the) topic - ops question is already answered anyway.

    and you did what? you apologized? at least not for spreading rumors and lies about me. so no it's not over yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    fuck off (the) topic - ops question is already answered anyway.

    and you did what? you apologized? at least not for spreading rumors and lies about me. so no it's not over yet.
    Oh holy hell..

    ... I apologize for hurting your feelings... go find your safe space and let it drop, This isn't our personal thread for a personal war.

    In case you haven't noticed we just wrecked this thread that never had anything to do with us or SMN but was intended for BLMs.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    oh now stepping back after raising your voice in an absolute overacting way? poor you silver...

    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
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    I think it is ok to talk about SMN stats and different builds, because the OPs question were already answered. Just the way you are handling Off Topic is really really bad! Shame on you! :P
    I would call it a day but after he started with lies and calumny im pissed as well. I like discussions and openminded ted talks but not the way he goes for it. arrogant, complacent, condescendingly - without any substance. he looks down on smns (yeah not just me) who gathered experience over years. he takes things for granted, which are obviously not true at all. I said it before - its not about smns or the game itself - its about his poor character. its always the same with him starting big shouts, followed by insults leaving the conversation because "everything is said" (aka running out of arguments/points/claims) - I can't stand people like this neither in RL nor in an online community. and it's not just me...

    All I can recommend is do research outside of the forums. Most people here don't know as much as they try to make it seem lol.
    It is VERY easy to show just how much damage you actually loose.
    Sorry, I can't argue with math.
    Don't forget more pet damage, since their attacks are directly improved by sps.
    This is entirely not true. Like, at all.
    Well don't do Piety anyway
    None of that is considered actual difficult end-game.
    preaching that it's the best is beyond absurd.
    If you have no idea of what you're talking about, keep it to yourself.
    keep it to yourself so you don't spread your badness to new players.
    Actually, the "getting jumped" in this thread was done by you and not to you,
    You know... I just realized what that reminds me of. Replace "Silverquick" with "Trump", and "Neela" with "The Media" and it's the same pattern of behaviour.
    Instead of supporting your claim that piety is better than sps via a reasonable discussion as to what you get out piety, you instead attack her credibility
    The logic here is very poor.
    I really wouldn't try arguing with this Silverquick individual. If you have different opinions from them, they'll just tell you you're "way out of touch with reality" and "probably don't even play this game."
    ...but after all he still thinks he's right and everybody else is wrong. the really, really sad part... he truly believes that he's the victim... #dreamon
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-01-2017 at 12:00 AM.

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