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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    i made many. piety is waste. your anima is waste. you don't came up with the idea of ruin lll oot. you claim to "outdamage" all the other smn without even near BiS gear/materia. you don't understand trance at all. your ss is way to low for dots/egi/ruin lll spam to generate a decent dps in endgame. ark is no endgame. you say that all other smns don't know how to play their cls - cause we are all outdated, hello mister bliz2 spammer? so here we go, no points for a statement huh? and those are just the false facts you spread in THIS thread. not mentioning "silvers words of wisdom" on other smn threads... "trance will fall off and won't be available if your aether stacks drop or if they are on cd"... uhm ya sure mister high smn Braska... so your last move is making baseless accusations cause you don't know what to say else.

    I can understand if you give up. dw. #dreamon #missblackyfordiscussions #sad #bored
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    Last edited by Neela; 05-31-2017 at 12:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    you say that all other smns don't know how to play their cls - cause we are all outdated,
    No I said that about... YOU.

    Some of the other people are actually pretty good Summoners that just do things differently.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    still just untenable assertions from a novice... no arguments but a pissed ego - i love mmo-communites especially this one ^^

    your problem is easy to get: it seems you never get used to get criticism or a objective discussion. you don't have to like me or anyone else who's not with your opinion, after all you made mistakes and your ego can't stand your own faults. it's not about this game, its about character. and yours seems worse regarding an "objective discussion". you say I made baseless accusations... but you was the first who "lied" on purpose - you would have thought me ruin lll oot? lol. than you claimed im outdated and haven't played smn at all? lol where did that came from? - you are just pissed and got everything personal thats all. poor behavior.

    anyway you think that im hunting you down (for whatever reason...) since your very first post in those smn topics - where the fucking hell comes this mindset from?... in truth you are the one who starts the fighting again and again on every single topic we meet. get over you damn ego and learn how to discuss in a forum without bitch moves and untenable assertion or it will bang again in the near future.
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    Last edited by Neela; 05-31-2017 at 01:43 AM.

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    Alkimi Asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    Hey all. so I'm close to getting my gear maxed out and I was wondering what is the best materia to infuse my gear with?
    Well don't do Piety anyway, because from 4.0 it's a healer only secondary stat. Because tanks, dps and healers will all have a secondary stat unique to their role you probably won't even be able to meld it.

    From what the maths people have been figuring out with regards to rotations, it's unfortunate since on a normal rotation you'll have to be at 100% MP when you cast Fire 3 in order to get 6 F4 in per rotation, which may mean waiting on mana ticks, or even just sticking with 5 F4 instead.
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    Last edited by Alkimi; 05-31-2017 at 02:42 AM.

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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    Well don't do Piety anyway, because from 4.0 it's a healer only secondary stat. Because tanks, dps and healers will all have a secondary stat unique to their role you probably won't even be able to meld it.

    From what the maths people have been figuring out with regards to rotations, it's unfortunate since on a normal rotation you'll have to be at 100% MP when you cast Fire 3 in order to get 6 F4 in per rotation, which may mean waiting on mana ticks, or even just sticking with 5 F4 instead.
    I would say ACC might be a useful meld but it's hard to say until we see 4.0 patch notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    I would say ACC might be a useful meld but it's hard to say until we see 4.0 patch notes.
    Yeah that is apparently the largest change, and given the way they described it...

    It may have a larger chunk of play in Stormblood.

    It sounded like there's the new "decisive blow" on top of a normal critical hit, and that is determined by accuracy or what replaces accuracy.

    I caught something about them both being possible in one strike so you could get both of them at once. It would make Crit and whatever replaces Accuracy key gear.

    So I do wonder how that will play into things.
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Do we need a thread just for Silverquick to argue about SMN? It feels like any thread could suddenly be about SMN if you say the right (or wrong) things.

    Honestly, most of this thread, which was focused on BLM melds, is now about SMN. This thread could've been resolved in ~30 posts top but somehow SMN became a part of it.

    Again.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Do we need a thread just for Silverquick to argue about SMN? It feels like any thread could suddenly be about SMN if you say the right (or wrong) things.

    Honestly, most of this thread, which was focused on BLM melds, is now about SMN. This thread could've been resolved in ~30 posts top but somehow SMN became a part of it.

    Again.
    Yeah sorry about that,

    I didn't think I would get jumped while asking BLMs about how they do their gear... by other SMNs about SMN.

    What can I say? They're obsessed with me.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Yeah sorry about that,

    I didn't think I would get jumped while asking BLMs about how they do their gear... by other SMNs about SMN.

    What can I say? They're obsessed with me.
    Actually, the "getting jumped" in this thread was done by you and not to you, and after that tone was set things went downhill very quickly. Being disagreed with does not equate to being attacked or jumped on. People are allowed to disagree, especially when they have a reasoned argument to support why. The paraphrased progress of the conversation went:

    Silverquick: "Piety is a stat I put on my Summoner because I can get an extra Ruin 3 and never run out of mp."
    Neela: "I don't know why you would say that. Using SPS instead you can put an extra buffed Ruin 3 in during DWT while getting the extra DoT/pet damage, and still never run out of mana with good aetherflow management. Please don't spread bad advice about piety being a better stat than sps/crit." [Editor's note: She actually did use the word please, so I'm not implying tone here.]
    Silverquick: <out of place ad hominem attacks on Neela's character while propping up your self-declared excellence instead of providing support to your claim>

    You know... I just realized what that reminds me of. Replace "Silverquick" with "Trump", and "Neela" with "The Media" and it's the same pattern of behaviour.

    Anywho, the BLM question has long since been answered multiple times, so hopefully this thread can be locked. But until then... /popcorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Actually, the "getting jumped" in this thread was done by you and not to you, and after that tone was set things went downhill
    very quickly. Being disagreed with does not equate to being attacked or jumped on. People are allowed to disagree, especially when they have a reasoned argument to support why. The paraphrased progress of the conversation went:
    Try again Mhaeric here's the real conversation...

    1. (Random Poster) You melded piety on a caster!? I think my mind just exploded

    2. (Me) Absolutely... It's why I can do 5 Fire IV's instead of 4 Fire IVs as a BLM, and have 10.5k MP where other SMNs only have 9.5k, ie a full Ruin 3 more than they do.

    3. (Neela)
    I got two builds for my smn the raid one with 1270 crit 590 det 746 ss and a casual time stasis build with 830 crit 615 det 1250 ss. even with 1250 ss I never felt the need of extra piety one more fire 4 or ruin 3 isnt worth the loss in crit/ss for more mp. although I like exotic builds please don't spread that piety is the stat to go for caster (smn)... it definitely isnt and will never be a primary of the casters secondaries : o

    4. (Me)
    ....Says the person who was *shocked* people used Ruin 3 outsided of Trance in the first place... who apparently didn't realize you actually CAN use it out of Trance and be doing constant 200 potency single target damage... instead of 80 potency single target damage. No wonder YOU don't think you need Piety gear.



    And by the way that's not Ad Hominim... its from another thread Neela and I got into it on. Where she didn't know people were using Ruin 3 outside of trance now... like it was the new thing. The game changed... and now more people have the MP to use it outside of Trance.
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