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  1. #1
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    Avatar de Delmontyb
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Sargatanas
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    Élémentaliste Lv 90

    Cool PvP Changes... Can we also get XP for playing?

    I'm really excited about the PvP changes coming in Stormblood... Hopefully it's not too much to ask that we get XP for playing PvP, thus allowing us to level up the different jobs we have unlocked as a fun way to level up that job outside of PvP.

    I know some will worry that you'll then have high level players who don't know PvE because they leveled through PvP and while I understand that argument, there is already jump potions, POD, and other content that does the same thing... so why not for those who want to PvP and level?

    Thanks for your time and consideration.
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    I actually think that's an interesting idea. I mean, you would certainly learn more about your job through PVP than spamming PotD or FATE grinding, so I don't see any reason why not!
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    Lennard Cruce
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    Typhon
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par HakuroDK Voir le message
    I mean, you would certainly learn more about your job through PVP than spamming PotD or FATE grinding
    Except you wouldn't because of the upcoming changes to PvP actions. I support the idea of using PvP as another option for leveling, though.
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    Citation Envoyé par Nerisu Voir le message
    Except you wouldn't because of the upcoming changes to PvP actions. I support the idea of using PvP as another option for leveling, though.
    It's a tough balance for sure... The idea in my head that plays out... is someone uses the story skip potion, and then just PvPs to get their levels.

    Or...

    Someone has say like their Warrior at Cap, but wants to level PLD, or DRK... But want to PvP etc... why not let them level up a take. Sure their will be an adjustment because it's two different systems, but they get to play and level another way. (same goes for DPS too)

    Anyway... that's just my hope, as I'd love to have another option for leveling.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    But... we are leveling in PvP - our PvP-rank just needs to become meaningful again.

    I dont really think we need another option for PvE-leveling - and I dont think that that option should be PvP.
    I'm not only worried to have people who dont know PvE later because they leveled in PvP but also the opposite: Have people in PvP who dont know how to play their class because they've never really played it before.
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  6. #6
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    Lennard Cruce
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    Typhon
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Vidu Voir le message
    I'm not only worried to have people who dont know PvE later because they leveled in PvP but also the opposite: Have people in PvP who dont know how to play their class because they've never really played it before.
    Yeah, this is the downside of using PvP for leveling since people might not care whether they win or lose as long as they get EXP and some might even just semi-AFK. But I'm not worried about people not knowing PvE stuff because we're getting level skip items soon anyway so it won't really matter anymore where we get our EXP.
    (1)

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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Citation Envoyé par Vidu Voir le message
    Have people in PvP who dont know how to play their class because they've never really played it before.
    Well, you're in for a treat in that regard, because PvP will be available from level 30 onward now.

    PvP and PvE are going to be separated in terms of playstyle now as well, so knowledge of one does not substantially help or hinder the other. The ability to read and comprehend tooltips however will remain an invaluable asset in a player's skill repertoire.

    Personally, I don't see why not. I'd just say it shouldn't be an "efficient" way of leveling so that people who only want the XP will be more inclined to go elsewhere to get where they want to be faster.
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    Fuma Oyabun
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    Sargatanas
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Bad players are going to be bad players. How they level a job isn't going to change that. If you think it does you're just fooling yourself, the players that actually care learn their rotations and practice them.

    I'm for leveling through PvP.
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    Az Zurrei
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    Behemoth
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    Barde Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Zojha Voir le message
    Well, you're in for a treat in that regard, because PvP will be available from level 30 onward now.

    PvP and PvE are going to be separated in terms of playstyle now as well, so knowledge of one does not substantially help or hinder the other. The ability to read and comprehend tooltips however will remain an invaluable asset in a player's skill repertoire.

    Personally, I don't see why not. I'd just say it shouldn't be an "efficient" way of leveling so that people who only want the XP will be more inclined to go elsewhere to get where they want to be faster.
    XP efficiency is certainly one way to "popularize" PvP...just saying (and I hope it never happens.) I honestly wish PvP had never been added...but you know, those tens of dozens of really loud people who just can't choose one of the million games dedicated to PvP just have to have it in their FF MMO - whatever, it provides easy gear for gearing up to do the MSQ before SB for me I suppose.
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    Fuma Oyabun
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    Sargatanas
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Ayerinn Voir le message
    XP efficiency is certainly one way to "popularize" PvP...just saying (and I hope it never happens.) I honestly wish PvP had never been added...but you know, those tens of dozens of really loud people who just can't choose one of the million games dedicated to PvP just have to have it in their FF MMO - whatever, it provides easy gear for gearing up to do the MSQ before SB for me I suppose.
    Please stay on topic, PvP is a part of the game whether you want it to be or not. The topic here is should PvP grant exp or not as you can nowsoon start queuing for PvP at level 30.
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    Dernière modification de Fuma, 25/05/2017 à 22h43 Raison: reasons above

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