cross roll system and issues on some jobs

[Wildsprite]

honestly devs, you should just auto cross the important skills and give us an option for 1 or 2 skills on top of those.
this new Cross Role system looks nice but I'm looking at the skills in there and important skills should never be set as optional.


please take this as more of an observation than a complaint as I can honestly see issues happening with this system happening later if they keep it as they showed it

[Felis]

Why not first try it out before demanding changes?
Also, why a new thread?

[Naunet]

Why not first try it out before demanding changes?

God I wish we had a PTR.

[Wildsprite]

you misunderstand, this is a suggestion not a demand.

[Rinuko]

What is important is very different player to player too. If they were to force some skills on you which you dont want there would be much salt

[dlgc]

OP, I feel that your "suggestion" is purely you "jumping the gun" based on the limited information we have about Stormblood.

Cheers,
D.

[Wildsprite]

OP, I feel that your "suggestion" is purely you "jumping the gun" based on the limited information we have about Stormblood.

Cheers,
D.

ofcourse some of you might think so but I'll leave this thread with a quote from another

Personally I think this whole change is going to backfire hilariously.

I mean, think about it: SE has stated they want to (a) reduce button bloat, and (b) make the system more accessible / usable for casual players. Laudable goals, both, assuming they can be effectively achieved. But, it is arguable the nature of the role-based system might worsen both. Consider:

1.) Role-based skills are broad enough that it appears frequent swapping between skill combinations is encouraged. This means that users must integrate most or all of the Role-based skills onto their hotbars, rather than just the five I'd use now, all of which are relatively static.

2.) Role-based skills being flexible and guaranteed means the floodgates will be opened for players being told how to play. Think that situation is bad now? Wait until tanks start bitching at healers for not having Esuna selected. Wait until people wipe because the tank forgot to respec from a damage-oriented setup they were using for solo'ing. This isn't going to lead to a friendlier environment for casual or forgetful players.

Don't get me wrong, I think the role-based skill system is potentially a good idea - but it doesn't fix the problem. They've essentially removed the need to level other jobs, but shifted even MORE crucial abilities into optional skills. Healers in 3.x need to have Swiftcast, but now they need to make damned sure they've selected Esuna, too - and heaven help them if they don't. This would have worked a hell of a lot better if the role-based skills were optional things that gave non-crucial, but nonetheless useful, abilities. They should have behaved like Merit Point abilities in FFXI. Hell, they could have even allowed for the selection of a role-based Trait or two, something powerful, so people could really customize how their class felt. Instead, they've worsened almost all the problems of the cross-class system; the only thing they fixed (and it's debatable if this is a good thing or not) is the fact that players no longer have to level separate jobs they might not be interested in.

Truly a missed opportunity.

[RaijinSupreme]

ofcourse some of you might think so but I'll leave this thread with a quote from another

If you were going to quote a post from another thread, then you should have just left this suggestion in that thread instead of creating a new one.

[Wildsprite]

If you were going to quote a post from another thread, then you should have just left this suggestion in that thread instead of creating a new one.

I had not intended to quote a post from another thread originally but, I felt it fit. when I was looking at that thread it felt like my suggestion was off topic through most of it.

[aesteval]

If you're going to quote something from a different thread, why not just go and reply to that thread instead of starting a new one?