"Changes to FFXIV Net code could make most Ping issues Irrelevant!" where is thread?

[Hamada]

This is a quite helpful solution in something this game needs? what happened to the thread?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ues-Irrelevant!

TL;DR: If more actions in the game functioned like Mudras, where the Client is trusted without requiring a response from the server, much of FFXIV's clunky action execution problems would evaporate. That's what I think, anyway.
What do you think about FFXIV's overall responsiveness, relating to Ping and in general?

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After the server move, there are a lot of players who have much worse Ping than before; and many who have much better. That's to be expected.
But the server move basically makes it such that almost every player understands the effect an increase from 70 to 150ms can be to FFXIV.

I think r/Anidamo on Reddit summarised the underlying issue with FFXIV's ping-reliant responsiveness:



The way the Client and Server communicate is (presumably, based on watching traffic via Network Monitoring programs) seems to favor waiting on the server before allowing the Client to proceed. This is quite frankly woefully inefficient and sluggish for a game that came out post-2010.

Legacy players will remember that a lot of the reasons why 1.0 felt so clunky to play was because every single action, including menu actions, would require a response from the server before executing that action. It does appear the same issue is at play, but to a lesser, though still noticable degree.

The following are also affected by FFXIV's tendency to wait on the server for input:
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>Moving targets being more difficult to hit, as melee abilities start then stop if you aren't inside of the target

>Buffs/Debuffs need a tick to apply, or the next GCD used after them will not benefit from them unless you wait a moment (best exemplified with using Bio then Fester or Bane)

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Now, my question is:
What do you think? Is FFXIV responsiveness about right? Is it sluggish, compared to other MMOs? Do you like that there is an activation-delay between a GCD and an oGCD being available?
I've seen people fall into one of three camps:
-They think XIV is a clunky MMO
-They think XIV is fine as it is
-They don't notice the sluggishness I an many other players talk about

I'm wondering how many people really think of this as a problem, and if so, how interested they would be in the game being overall more responsive.

[ErryK]

Probably deleted for infringing one of the rules.

[Hamada]

Probably deleted for infringing one of the rules.

It did not break any rules, it is a needed change to the game.

[Kaonis]

It probably violated some forum ToS since it points out the severe flaws in the game and how it was designed. Can't be having criticism around these parts I guess.

[ErryK]

It did not break any rules, it is a needed change to the game.

Square Enix may either edit or delete posts that are deemed improper.
Posting seeking to damage or disparage Square Enix, the forum, FINAL FANTASY XIV, or others.
Posting content that seeks to interfere with the running of FINAL FANTASY XIV.
Posting content with the intention of criticizing either Square Enix staff or specific individuals.

You can check here and here.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It probably violated some forum ToS since it points out the severe flaws in the game and how it was designed. Can't be having criticism around these parts I guess.

They are actually fine with criticism, its the slander they dont like so much

[Hamada]

You can check here and here.

It did not break those rules.

[ErryK]

It did not break those rules.

You might think so, but SE thought otherwise since it's clearly gone.

[Belhi]

If it is a feasible solution they will probably look at it. Its not like they want everyone to have higher pings. However really without knowing the detail of how their game is set up and what side effects changes like that can have its not something which would be rolled out rapidly without substancial testing and its unclear wether it is the best solution.

[ReplicaX]

It did not break those rules.

Clearly it did and it's their forums. Welcome to gray area, as they don't need to give you the reason why either.

Technically this thread can be considered breaking the rules as well. You are criticizing the staff's decision of removing that thread.