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  1. #31
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Personally, I like to take the view that my character is not only a total badass but also a charismatic leader with a goldfish-poop gang of devoted followers following fast on my heels no matter WHAT situation I wind up in. While cases like Nabriales and Thordan stretch this viewpoint thin at times, I nevertheless continue to insist that there's always seven or more others waiting in the wings to follow my commands to victory! I get the credit for the win not because I single-handedly brought the threat low, but because, due to my strategic brilliance, I was in the space of mere moments able to draft a team of highly skilled combatants and lead them to victory.

    While it may be a stretch, I still think it breaks suspension of disbelief a lot less than insisting that my WHM was able to drub Nidhogg senseless with her staff or whatever with no support at all. :P

    Still, it's up to you to decide what works for you. There's no right or wrong answer.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    I am 99 per cent confident that the cutscenes you see in the Neverending Tale are different from those you watch at the end of every dungeon you complete for the first time.
    Last post on that because I dont want this even more off topic. I know that people are replaced or not even there if you rewatch it. Thats exactly my argument. That for the first time (at least the one I can remember) after steps of fate you will see NPCs there with you that are not the other players that you had in that instance. So they are NPCs adventurers that exist in the world and that helped you with that. They are in the book too. So in a way you could say that this the first truly canonically instance with other adventurers.

    I know that everyone could just imagine it how they want it to be. I do it often too so I can understand that. My "problem" is more that its often said that we had other people with us in certain trials or fights because the game told you so but in the story itself it does not make any sense. But its just a little pet peeve of mine so sorry for brining that up ^^; its just itching in my fingers if I read about it in threads.
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  3. #33
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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    That for the first time (at least the one I can remember) after steps of fate you will see NPCs there with you that are not the other players that you had in that instance. So they are NPCs adventurers that exist in the world and that helped you with that. They are in the book too. So in a way you could say that this the first truly canonically instance with other adventurers.
    Oh, those particular characters are npcs, but, they were originally player characters, in that they were the winners of a competition Square Enix ran a couple of years ago on the Lodestone where your character could be added into the game as an npc in a cutscene (one of the first winners was a nameless male Midlander PLD in a hopelite tabard and darklight sabatons and gauntlets who appeared during one of the ARR Hildibrand quests who was then proceeded to be beaten into a bloody pulp by Typhon and Ultros in the first few minutes. ).

    Either way, those particular characters are npcs which are actually based on actual player characters, who were competition winners.
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  4. #34
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    While cases like Nabriales and Thordan stretch this viewpoint thin at times, I nevertheless continue to insist that there's always seven or more others waiting in the wings to follow my commands to victory!
    If I remember rightly Nabriales opens a portal right in Scion HQ, in theory you just shout your mates over from the other room.
    Thordan tells you confront him if you dare then teleports away, giving you chance to call your team up on the linkpearl.

    Ifrit and Ravana are the ones that I think the story makes hardest to explain the other characters with you.
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  5. #35
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    Miyo Mohzolhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Ifrit and Ravana are the ones that I think the story makes hardest to explain the other characters with you.
    I recall the prison area in the Bowl of Embers had an underwater passage that led to the outside. One of the random NPC Brass Blades who got captured along with you says that while the player character can come and go freely, if too many people start using it to escape, the Amaljaa would... do something bad? Kill those who remained? I forget.

    I may be misremembering the details, but it did strike me as deeply weird at the time. I figured it was a way to allow the player to do other stuff while waiting for the Duty Finder queue, but fell apart narratively when subject to any scrutiny.

    In any case, it might not be out of the question that the player character escapes, gathers allies, then re-enters the Bowl of Embers, where presumably the other adventurers pretends they've been there all along. Presumably the Amaljaa don't care about people coming into their prison, rather than escaping.

    It's still deeply weird, but we probably shouldn't think about it too much.

    I think Ravana had something similar. The Gnath say the WoL can go, but their friends have to stay.

    I do agree that it makes a lot more sense story-wise to assume that the WoL is soloing these particular Primals, though.
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    Last edited by YianKutku; 06-08-2017 at 07:42 PM. Reason: 1k character limit

  6. #36
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    I think all player characters are warriors of light but since it's our story as an individual that we are the only ones addressed by the npcs... I figured the other warriors were just off doing their own prepwork for things to come... several times we are told to gather our companions before a fight...
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  7. #37
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    Dia Lancea
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    Amputexture on reddit noticed this, a reference to the players we fight with.

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  8. #38
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    They mention the previous warriors of light as a group who vanished during the last calamity and nobody can remember what they looked like... the group from the opening movie... the WoD are also a group... so there isn't necessarily only one WoL unless derplander is the WoL and his companions are just that...
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  9. #39
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    /snip.
    Derplander is a stand in for us for the opening movie. Unless you want to count the WOD which was from a different star altogether. Everyone is the Warrior of Light, however that is only during their own main story quest. Everyone they take with them are elite adventurers which during some quests are mentioned to be brought together by the PC.

    The ones who were the previous warriors of light were we who are the legacy players that defeated Nael Deus Darnus in a partial epic game of missile command in The Rivenroad and "participated" in the battle of Carteneau. It's assuming we gathered the same people to fight off the black wolf before the servers went down and dalamud fell.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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