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    [devs] Please Make Rescue Fair

    This move is going to be abused. People will pull you into aoes to troll. They'll also demand that you use it, and there will be fall out. Please make it so that the move can only be used so often. Perhaps it should be a one to two minute cool down, and maybe even usable once per dungeon.
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    Have you used the skill to determine if it unfair or not? This skill exists in other MMOs to great success.

    (Btw, if a healer wants to kill you, there are much easier ways than pulling you into an AOE with rescue)
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    This is getting blown out of proportions.

    Yes, I can see the skill being used for shits and giggles, between friends for a couple of months.

    Yes, troll will be trolls. And what we do with trolls? They get kicked, plain and simple. That has not changed at all. Behaviorally bad healers get the boot most of the time.

    If your current DF runs are majorly composed of people who just get the job done and GG the run, expect the same to happen when SB hits.

    I can tell you this right now: what people expect even more than a rescue from an AoE is a heal after getting hit by one. As long as people are kept alive, barely anyone's gonna notice whether or not you used it. By that same manner, unless you're in a clutch situation where the use of Rescue would save the party from wiping, no one's gonna notice its use.

    TL;DR: People are going to experiment with it..and then in a few months, it'll be this skill that keeps collecting dust on your hotbar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    It's a 150(was it 180 idr) CD. You can see it in a mouseover somewhere in the LL video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Have you used the skill to determine if it unfair or not? This skill exists in other MMOs to great success.

    (Btw, if a healer wants to kill you, there are much easier ways than pulling you into an AOE with rescue)
    https://youtu.be/_ND0yoTPXnE?t=1m24s

    WTF!!!
    I dont trust...this healer
    EDIT: Thinking about it, in TERA, I don't think I ever got trolled by a Priest in a PUG using it for some reason.
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    Last edited by YitharV2; 05-24-2017 at 05:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
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    Or we can just kick the dps that constantly stands or gets hit by the aoe. Don't matter if the whm puts the dps there or not, in most cases now dps probably will blame the whm, even if that's not the truth. I would just not heal the dps that gets hit over and over, no matter if it's their own or the whm's fault. After that person died 3 times we will just vote kick that person for under performing. Then we will continue with using the skill as it was intended, wipe the group with yanking the tanks forth and back, waiting for a new dps to join that we can then torture etc. I wait years for that, I hope it will be as legendary as I can imaging it in my head right now.
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    I probably wouldn't even have it as one of my role abilities. I have better abilities to choose from and a silly pull isn't one of it.

    If you are that worried about healers using the pull to make you die, then all I can say is not to worry. If I really want you to die, I'll just not heal you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    Or we can just kick the dps that constantly stands or gets hit by the aoe. Don't matter if the whm puts the dps there or not, in most cases now dps probably will blame the whm, even if that's not the truth. I would just not heal the dps that gets hit over and over, no matter if it's their own or the whm's fault. After that person died 3 times we will just vote kick that person for under performing. Then we will continue with using the skill as it was intended, wipe the group with yanking the tanks forth and back, waiting for a new dps to join that we can then torture etc. I wait years for that, I hope it will be as legendary as I can imaging it in my head right now.
    I agree with the bold part. The rest just seems unnecessarily callous...unless its between friends where you can have your ebil giggles legitimately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    I seem to remember this same topic when Ninjas were given Shadewalker and Smokescreen when Heavensward came out. Those moves have great troll potential but I have never witnessed it happen,did it happen? sure probably,but its never been a problem. I would think a dps would attract bored trollish players but healers dont seem the type. At best its gonna be FC or static prank fodder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    This move is going to be abused. People will pull you into aoes to troll.
    If the healer pulls you into an AoE, that means that the healer will also be inside the AoE. So if it's a one-hit-you-die AoE, both of you die, the raid leader would see the healer is trolling and then warn them or kick them.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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