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    Alise Reinhart
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    It seem MT and ST might become more differ now?

    From what I look, PLA new ability seem to focus on defend, (especially the last one in the video). While DRK and WAR seem to get better at DPS than before.

    Does this means in the future content where DPS is more needed, it gonna be WAR + DRK, while future content where a real tank is needed, it gonna be PLA + sub ?

    What do you think?
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    Grandfall Fraxinus
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    not sure about war being better at dps, apparently they will change berserk to 60 secs cooldown but 50 % will be reduced to 30 % and no pacification
    though since maim now deal slashing debuff i think the 20% damage from maim is gone altogether
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    Last edited by konpachizaraki; 05-24-2017 at 02:13 PM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    iirc the 20% from Maim got moved to Storm's Eye since WAR gets a self buff when you use it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    while future content where a real tank is needed
    pls go
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    When yoshi played as his war when he did the SE combo, maim put a slashing debuff on the enemy while storms eye was a buff. It's the exact same icon as the current SE but appears on the warrior.

    https://youtu.be/T8OisXlPmaQ?t=5853
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    I'm feeling a little optimistic that PLD's DPS isn't going to be that far behind this go round. Requiscat(or however it's spelled) does have quite a bit of damage on it, and if done over 80 percent gives a buff to damage as well. And PLD still has FoF. In fact most of what we saw PLD do in that video was offensive based.
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by konpachizaraki View Post
    not sure about war being better at dps, apparently they will change berserk to 60 secs cooldown but 50 % will be reduced to 30 % and no pacification
    This isn't much of a nerf though. If my math is right current berserk works out to around a 12% damage buff throughout the fight. New berserk works out to 10%. I also believe now you can pull off 6 fell cleaves every other berserk window. It does worry me a bit cause it seems like warrior probably still has it's guaranteed spot and paladin and dark knight will be fighting over the last spot.
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    can't tell if we don't know all the new skills. But common sense says Axe and Greatsword will always do more damage than sword and shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    It does worry me a bit cause it seems like warrior probably still has it's guaranteed spot and paladin and dark knight will be fighting over the last spot.
    I'm not going to bank too much on that anymore. Since ever tank as Reprisal WAR no longer has that advantage, and with MNK getting its new dragon kick debuff (all physical now) that equalizes things a bit too as well. Also from what we saw with PLD and WAR stance dancing isn't something you can do as freely anymore. We might be seeing a lot more consecutive damage coming in this raid tier. If anything party comps might be more interesting this go round due to role skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    This isn't much of a nerf though. If my math is right current berserk works out to around a 12% damage buff throughout the fight. New berserk works out to 10%. I also believe now you can pull off 6 fell cleaves every other berserk window. It does worry me a bit cause it seems like warrior probably still has it's guaranteed spot and paladin and dark knight will be fighting over the last spot.
    depends on if the fight requires stuns. PLD still has Shield Bash so that will at least guarantee it the MT spot in those fights.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    I guess in Stormblodd the MT/OT thing will still be a stupid label used by the community, which just prevents tanks from using their potential to the fullest.

    "I'm MT" or "I can only OT this" are things who only scrubs will say.

    Those things just lead to.. example: Niddhog Ex fang&claw, WAR tanks Niddy when towers are destroyed (no more tank swaps required until 2nd Akh Morn and WAR could go full Butcher's while in Deliverence) but the "MT" PLD/DRK 'vokes because... he wants to do a Halone/Powerslash and wants me back to do Storm's Eye spam or what?!
    Rather use cover+sheltron for that shield swipe proc and use your Royal Authorities plx.

    One tank starts (the one with the most emnity build), then you apply a strategy where every hard attack is taken by a tank who can survive it, while losing groupwide the least offensive capabilities as possible.

    "I gonna tank this from beginning to end" is, unless in certain specific contents, pretty meh.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 05-29-2017 at 04:17 PM.

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