Thread: Paladin AoE in 4.0

I wish flash don't have that 1 or 2 seconds delay before apply enmity like this now

Well, so long you are in Shield Oath it should generate some agro...
It would be bad if it turns out to combo from Fast Blade tho, then you WOULD need to use Flash a couple times

For flash to be any use at all in 4.0 it should have the mana cost drastically reduced or moved over to TP. Any new attacking abilities we get AOE or not should have enmity built into it because after all you are hitting a mob and damage does generate hate.

Originally Posted by GDFletcher

For flash to be any use at all in 4.0 it should have the mana cost drastically reduced or moved over to TP. Any new attacking abilities we get AOE or not should have enmity built into it because after all you are hitting a mob and damage does generate hate.

The new spin attack will be doing 110 potency versus flash's 600+ potency worth of enmity. After Shield Oath these two attacks should generate ~252 enmity and ~1377 enmity.

For comparison an Enochian+Astral Fire 3 Fire 2 is 189 and a Enochian+Astral Fire 3 Flare is 245 to 491.

These numbers are before differences in WP (caster weapons often have 35%+ more than tank weapons), AP from main stat (Tank accessories will not be providing Str) and difference in dps from Tenacity/Direct Hit.

Flash will be a must for Paladin's wanting to hold enmity on multiple targets.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

The new spin attack will be doing 110 potency versus flash's 600+ potency worth of enmity. After Shield Oath these two attacks should generate ~252 enmity and ~1377 enmity.

For comparison an Enochian+Astral Fire 3 Fire 2 is 189 and a Enochian+Astral Fire 3 Flare is 245 to 491.

These numbers are before differences in WP (caster weapons often have 35%+ more than tank weapons), AP from main stat (Tank accessories will not be providing Str) and difference in dps from Tenacity/Direct Hit.

Flash will be a must for Paladin's wanting to hold enmity on multiple targets.

where did u get the enmity for flash? I know the other stuff; but where did u find flash?

Flash + Fight or Flight + Circle of Scorn
The thing that buffs damage for being at 80+ mp
New AOE x however many times
Maybe one more flash after the first blind wears off
Doesn't seem very clunky to me.

Originally Posted by Brannigan

Flash + Fight or Flight + Circle of Scorn
The thing that buffs damage for being at 80+ mp
New AOE x however many times
Maybe one more flash after the first blind wears off
Doesn't seem very clunky to me.

Was gonna mention COS that every seems to have forgotten about and if you combine it with FOF you got some easy aggro Gen there for you.

Does flash add fix mount of enmity to enemies or ir scale with your attack rating? I saw a chart on reddit said flash add about 650 enmity but when i leveling with paladin i have a trouble to hold enemy enmity with flash, and now when i'm 60 and well equip i only need to flash 2 or 3 time and can keep enemy aggro most of the pull

Flash, as I recall, is equivalent to 600 potency (it's been a long time since I tested it, but basically it generates equivalent enmity to an Overpower or DRK thing). In other words, it's as if you've used a 600 potency attack that scales with attack power and determination. However, it's a little misleading to just leave it at that, because
1 - Flash does not count as physical, so it doesn't benefit from Fight or Flight
2 - Flash does not benefit (iirc) from Crit
3 - Flash does not have a "damage range" of +/- 5% like most attacks do
4 - Flash does no damage, so the total potential enmity generation of your party members is higher than it would be if you were a DRK or WAR. There's more HP left over for party members to hit, so their maximum possible enmity is higher.