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  1. 05-23-2017 10:53 PM #1
    Raim
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    Paladin AoE in 4.0

    With the advent of Total Eclipse at level 46 this nearly solves the issue with PLD AoE in 4 man content such as dungeons, POTD, and Aquapolis groups. However, I am worried that it is now implemented as well as it could be. I noticed during the live letter that they retained Flash and that Flash did not be replaced by Total Eclipse. I haven't confirmed yet, but I think Total Eclipse doesn't cause additional enmity like Flash does. This would mean you still mob up enemies using Flash to general enmity and then use Total Eclipse when they are in place. Does anyone else feel this is clunky, or is it useful to mix your MP/TP management? On one hand you're not doing damage while pulling, but on the other you're saving a full TP bar for AoE when they're are grouped up. Would it be better if Total Eclipse replaced Flash entirely at a low level and Flash just become the trait itself, or keep it how it has been announced?
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  2. 05-23-2017 10:56 PM #2
    javid
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    Copy and paste this post in one of the 3 on going pld love threads!! Lol you can keep the title !!
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  3. 05-24-2017 05:05 AM #3
    Ultimatecalibur
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    I suspect the Paladin AoE rotation might end up being:

    Flash x2 -> Total Eclipse x3 -> Flash x1 -> Total Eclipse x2 -> Flash x1 -> rotate combos with Riot Blade in it to recover MP for next pull.

    Considering that Total Eclipse just replace Goring Blade combos in my previous AoE rotation I'm not unhappy.
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  4. 05-24-2017 06:15 AM #4
    Galactimus
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    No mention of Holy Spirit and Requiescat?


    Using Requiescat at 100% MP (or 80% after using a Flash) self-buffs your damage for 12 seconds. Then tack on three Holy Spirits which looks like Fire IV damage and aoe. THEN Total Eclipse to spend TP and Royal Authority combos to get 80% of your MP back before Requiescats 60 second cooldown is ready again. I doubt you'll need to Flash more than once with all of that damage output in Shield Oath.
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 05-24-2017 at 06:17 AM.
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  5. 05-24-2017 06:17 AM #5
    Raim
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    Holy Spirit is not AoE which is why I didn't mention it. They just look big.
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  6. 05-24-2017 06:20 AM #6
    Galactimus
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    Ah darn, that never crossed my mind. All this time I cheered for mini-holy XD
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  7. 05-24-2017 07:21 AM #7
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    Does that AOE sword swing even generate aggro? Not sure it does. It should though.
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  8. 05-24-2017 08:47 AM #8
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    Looks like PLD is still forced to use Flash and only gains an AoE filler. An improvement I guess, but I will still continue to hate Flash with passion.
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  9. 05-24-2017 04:35 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Looks like PLD is still forced to use Flash and only gains an AoE filler. An improvement I guess, but I will still continue to hate Flash with passion.
    Flash isn't so bad when its not the only AOE skill we have
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  10. 05-24-2017 06:58 PM #10
    Valenth
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    The blind on Flash also mitigates quite a few hits on bigger trash pulls. So sneaking in an occasional flash definitely seems handy.
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