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    Nirokun's Avatar
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    Removal of Piety and Starting Stats

    (I realize this is trivial, but still!)

    Specifically for Dunesfolk, Piety is our highest starting stat. Removed, and we no longer have that "strength", whereas, for example, Highlanders with very low Piety, look even better with their "weakness" removed.

    As a SMN, I would justify Duskwights having higher INT being offset by their lower Piety; their more powerful spells sustained by a weaker Aetherflow. As a Dunesfolk, I could eventually catch up with a Ruin III unavailable to Duskwights because I would recover more MP with my Aetherflow each minute.

    Seems just a little unfair. ._.
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    The developers don't like it when players get creative with the stats.
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    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

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    Opinion: Racial stats are pretty negligible.
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    This may be a bit off topic, but was anyone else surprised they didn't announce the removal of resistances?
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    One point of Piety only gives you 7 MP. You'd need about 50 Piety to really make any difference, if not more, in casting over a longer period of time. Don't know why this would be a big problem for anyone.
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    Hopefully the piety MP got relocated as a result but I agree, not a big loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    This may be a bit off topic, but was anyone else surprised they didn't announce the removal of resistances?
    It be hard to remove it since it's a mechanic tied to DOL, aka nodes that check to see if you ele resist is a certain level to get certain benefits from node.

    As for OPs issue, they've already stated that they plan to re-balance the stats so that everyone has the same amount of attribute points use for said race.

    So basically if you are concerned that with 6 stats everyones starting attributes was 30, and Player A had 5 PIE and Player B had 10 PIE but remove it now gives player A a +5 attribute boost over Player B, that won't happen. Those removed 5/10 points will be placed into the remaining attributes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
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    But the devs in the Live Letter already mentioned that they are adjusting the race stats because of the changes they are making. Piety may be your highest starting stat now, but it won't be come 4.0, and it will be replaced with something else. The only reason you deem it unfair is because you don't know what the change will be yet. It might even better than what you have now.

    Patience is key here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    It be hard to remove it since it's a mechanic tied to DOL, aka nodes that check to see if you ele resist is a certain level to get certain benefits from node.

    As for OPs issue, they've already stated that they plan to re-balance the stats so that everyone has the same amount of attribute points use for said race.

    So basically if you are concerned that with 6 stats everyones starting attributes was 30, and Player A had 5 PIE and Player B had 10 PIE but remove it now gives player A a +5 attribute boost over Player B, that won't happen. Those removed 5/10 points will be placed into the remaining attributes.
    Ah, thanks for the explanation, I was not aware of the DoL use of Resistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    As for OPs issue, they've already stated that they plan to re-balance the stats so that everyone has the same amount of attribute points use for said race.

    So basically if you are concerned that with 6 stats everyones starting attributes was 30, and Player A had 5 PIE and Player B had 10 PIE but remove it now gives player A a +5 attribute boost over Player B, that won't happen. Those removed 5/10 points will be placed into the remaining attributes.
    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    But the devs in the Live Letter already mentioned that they are adjusting the race stats because of the changes they are making. Piety may be your highest starting stat now, but it won't be come 4.0, and it will be replaced with something else. The only reason you deem it unfair is because you don't know what the change will be yet. It might even better than what you have now.
    Thanks, I didn't know because I only watched a bit of the live letter during my lunch break before going back to work. What I read afterwards didn't mention much about remaining stats, just that Piety was being removed and made a healer-only stat. That's all I need to hear.
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