Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

With increased perks of being a mentor, they should have increased penalties. Make the lockout an hour if they drop out of a mentor roulette.

[savageink]

You're free to have an opinion and he's free to tell you what he thinks of your opinion. Thats pretty much the underlying reality of debate.

and i'm free to take issue with the way he phrased his disagreement.

Welcome to free speech.

[vigioX-Sun]

Mentor or not mentor.
Most of the time I leave a dungeon is because of the jump only dance healers or very but very poor dps you don't pay my sub.
Increase penalty won't fix sh! ¥.
It's just gonna put more items an Gil on my retainers.
The problem is not the mentor but the ppl that think SE is paying mentor in cash to teach them how to do a rotation, demanding like you own them something ..

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

With increased perks of being a mentor, they should have increased penalties. Make the lockout an hour if they drop out of a mentor roulette.

Outside of the mentor roulette which doesn't actually reward much on its own (30 lore and 10 scripture, thats it), and an achievement for running that roulette 2000 times that awards a mount, do mentors actually get anything for being mentor status? Are there benefits I am unaware of?

[kattzkitti]

Outside of the mentor roulette which doesn't actually reward much on its own (30 lore and 10 scripture, thats it), and an achievement for running that roulette 2000 times that awards a mount, do mentors actually get anything for being mentor status? Are there benefits I am unaware of?

Social benefits, which are a powerful reward in any context.

[Driavna]

Outside of the mentor roulette which doesn't actually reward much on its own (30 lore and 10 scripture, thats it), and an achievement for running that roulette 2000 times that awards a mount, do mentors actually get anything for being mentor status? Are there benefits I am unaware of?

No, none at all. Is just one more roulette.

Social benefits, which are a powerful reward in any context.

The crown has become a stigma, so no, there is no social benefits.

[kattzkitti]

The crown has become a stigma on the forum, so no, there is no social benefits for users on the forum.

Fixed that for you. Forum memes don't extend ingame in most cases.

[Driavna]

Fixed that for you. Forum memes don't extend ingame in most cases.

Nope, I was talking in game. People either don't care about your crown (most common scenario), will be used "against you" or they will demand something from you. There not social benefit behind it outside a few players that believe said crown make them special... somehow.

[LineageRazor]

Players are given options to give penalties to other players all the time. What do you think a kick is? Or reporting for RMT?

Personal attacks aside, he's not wrong. There's no more reason to think that giving the players the ability to inflict penalties on other players would be abused any more than the kick function would be. Which is to say that yes, it would be abused, but not to an extent where it outweighs the benefits. Back when kick was first added, there was a ton of moaning and groaning about how trolls would now rule the game. It never happened. Neither would it happen if a player-inflicted penalty were added.

The vast majority of players would use such a function responsibly. A handful will use it spitefully. A tiny minority will use it to troll. Folks will complain on the forums about how they were unfairly penalized (in many cases, conveniently leaving out their own dickish behavior that lead to it) and it will seem like a much greater problem than it is, simply due to the fact that folks come to forums to complain.

This is FAR from a "so stupid the devs would never consider it" situation.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

That would be an interesting idea. When you initiate a vote kick, the game could allow you to decide a penalty. Everyone voting would see the person being kicked, the reason, and the penalty.