Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

[LineageRazor]

Leaving aside the "IT WAS A MENTOR!!1!" silliness...

They'd already get a penalty if they left the duty, realistically what else do you want them to do?

Personally, I advocate that the penalty for leaving a duty should be equivalent to the time remaining in the duty, not just a flat thirty minutes. So, leave a dungeon at the start of the run? Ninety minute penalty. Even tanks, who might be happy to sit out for thirty minutes because they know they can requeue instantly might put a little more thought into it if they knew they were going to be locked out for an hour and a half...

[Arynne]

Leaving aside the "IT WAS A MENTOR!!1!" silliness...



Personally, I advocate that the penalty for leaving a duty should be equivalent to the time remaining in the duty, not just a flat thirty minutes. So, leave a dungeon at the start of the run? Ninety minute penalty. Even tanks, who might be happy to sit out for thirty minutes because they know they can requeue instantly might put a little more thought into it if they knew they were going to be locked out for an hour and a half...

That's actually a really interesting idea. I think that increasing the time is a good way to help deter people from leaving just because they don't like the dungeon. If someone gets kicked from the group then you could leave their timer at the 30 minute debuff, unless they were kicked for certain reasons such as harassment or non-participation. You'd want to try and make sure that people who are kicked for disconnects or other technical issues aren't too harshly penalized.

[Makeda]

They'd already get a penalty if they left the duty, realistically what else do you want them to do? If they were actually there as part of mentor roulette (you don't know for sure) then maybe the leave option should be removed for that particular roulette, but I can see that being abused/people refusing to do whatever until kicked (but at least you could report for non-participation then).

At the end of the day though, leaving a duty someone doesn't like is something both mentors AND non-mentors do.

If a mentor leaves like this; just remove their mentor status for 1 month.

[LunaFaye]

If a mentor leaves like this; just remove their mentor status for 1 month.

Sure we should do that, but we also should ban a whole account for 1 month, if it's a non mentor. You know for the balance of things, because god forbid somebody did have an actual reason to leave, while we're still assuming it's the dungeon itself and that's the only valid and truthful explanation.

[HELLruler]

If a mentor queues for the mentor roulette, there's no excuse for leaving. Don't like the dungeon? Don't queue for roulettes. Bad players? Help them out, that's why you are a mentor

There should be a severe penalty for mentors leaving mentor roulette since they are abandoning players that could need his help. I'd say getting locked from that roulette until next daily reset should be enough

What if you had to leave, like a real life emergency happened? In that case, I doubt you would be worried about not being able to do a roulette that gives little bonuses

[MarcouQ]

What if you had to leave, like a real life emergency happened? In that case, I doubt you would be worried about not being able to do a roulette that gives little bonuses

Which, if that were the case, I suppose I could agree on the sentiment.

I'm more concerned with the general negativity people feel for others that play the game. I'm not disagreeing that there is some concerning behavior that other players display but the current penalties are as fair as Yoshida and his team can make them without they themselves turning into Iron Fists. In the end, a majority of these threads and reactions end up looking like revenge fantasies more than actual proposals for making players more "considerate." Just like the ESRB ratings on MMO's there is only so much that can be regulated before it starts looking like policing.

On a sidetracked side note ... these types of threads always make me wonder how behaved or ill behaved the community would be if it employed an open world PvP concept. I realize less people would play because of this but then you could literally penalize other players for misconduct in dungeon runs by killing them and stealing their shit. "How 'bout that for a penalty, muthafu--"

Not a serious idea mind you, just a fun thought.

[Feidam]

The mentor system is designed so that veteran players can assist newer players. End of story. If you do something that hinders a new player such as ditching a dungeon simply because you don't like it then there needs to be a penalty. Let players report mentors with it's own report category and then SE can investigate. If the behavior is shown to be somewhat consistent smack the player down. Time for people to be accountable for their actions again. If you don't want the "responsibility" of a mentor don't become one. If you are doing it only for the bonus then you have chosen to suck it up and need do what is expected of a mentor. Get smacked down once and continue to behave badly they should remove any acces to being a mentor and strip you of any earned rewards.

[Tremara]

You can't force players to stay in dungeons - mentor or not. To increase the penalty won't help and to doom the whole mentor-system just because of a minority of bad mentors is silly.

The whole systems relys of the help of other ppl aka Veterans/Mentors. As a reward they get some glamour/mounts/the pleasure to help. If you increase the penalty Veterans/Mentors may think it's not so tempting anymore if they have to leave and get a 90mins penalty.

[Niwashi]

... less mentors, which would mean less people to fill queues, which is the point of the roulette.

Filling queues is the point of the Leveling Roulette. But the point of Mentor Roulette is to have more of the people in duties be those who are willing to actively help mentor anyone needing it.

[Canadane]

Guy had an IRL emergency and leaves as his dungeon queue starts.
Happens to be a mentor? Death to mentors everywhere!