Are role actions a nerf?

[bswpayton]

To add on to this. You'd have to change your hotbar, too, as once a skill you had on the previous cross-role selection is replaced it'll serve no purpose being on .

Exactly if Im tankin which is mostly how I do dungeons etc, I am waiting on protect then im off to pull mobs and what about those instances where ur waiting on protect where as every healer had it pretty much for every dungeon. Now a healer may have to explain why they dont have protect now , like this system to me is pretty much the most mad Ive been at the devs sense Ive been playing the game. It was uncalled for all they had to do was not make it mandatory for people to level jobs they didnt want for cross skills now we have a trash system that takes alot of damage from jobs and alot of mitigation as well.

nobody wants to wait for someone to rearrange their stuff if anything thats the first sign of a bad dungeon run and is very annoying when someone as soon as they enter the instance says hold on a second. People dont even wana wait for new players to which like 3 mins of cut scenes u think they gona wana wait on this stuff. Not you of course but the people in this thread surely must of had some of the most pleasant instances with some of the most patient people in gaming that def hasnt been my experience

[thegreatonemal]

Exactly if Im tankin which is mostly how I do dungeons etc, I am waiting on protect then im off to pull mobs and what about those instances where ur waiting on protect where as every healer had it pretty much for every dungeon. Now a healer may have to explain why they dont have protect now

You are aware that you can change skills once in a dungeon it takes all of 5 seconds

[Aramina]

You are aware that you can change skills once in a dungeon it takes all of 5 seconds

But that takes too loooooooooooooooooooooooong. /s

[Ama_Hamada]

You are aware that you can change skills once in a dungeon it takes all of 5 seconds

You are put on a 30 sec cd (or 25, do not remember), I done it before, very fun to go in a sub 20 DF, use cleric, then switch it out for aero. (and protect when people complain but it does not matter for those low df)

[TarynH]

You are put on a 30 sec cd (or 25, do not remember), I done it before, very fun to go in a sub 20 DF, use cleric, then switch it out for aero. (and protect when people complain but it does not matter for those low df)

They are supposedly removing that penalty.

You are aware that you can change skills once in a dungeon it takes all of 5 seconds

You realize that if you played for about 4 hours a day, and did about 2 hours of content, and had to switch something every time, this would be 1440 switches a day? That's assuming it takes 5 seconds to switch something. It could get really tedious after awhile. Especially when it's something that should simply be a base ability to begin with.

[Aramina]

They are supposedly removing that penalty.



You realize that if you played for about 4 hours a day, and did about 2 hours of content, and had to switch something every time, this would be 1440 switches a day? That's assuming it takes 5 seconds to switch something. It could get really tedious after awhile. Especially when it's something that should simply be a base ability to begin with.

Er, 1440 switches in 120 minutes of content play would be 12 switches a minute which.... no.

edit: Let's say in that 2 hours you do 10 dungeons (which is estimated very high) and let's say you switch for every boss that is ~30 switches so 150s (if it is 5s, it still could be 0) so 2.5 minutes per day and THIS is the hill we are choosing to die on?

[Neophyte]

If you do 4h contents, each 15 mins long, you do 16 contents in 4h. With 5s switching that's 80s per day.

1440 switches would be 2h of non-stop switvhing skills.
1440s if 'switches' was a typo are 288 switches.
You don't make any sense at all.

Gosh.

PLS.

STOP.

THIS BS.

[TarynH]

Er, 1440 switches in 120 minutes of content play would be 12 switches a minute which.... no.

edit: Let's say in that 2 hours you do 10 dungeons (which is estimated very high) and let's say you switch for every boss that is ~30 switches so 150s (if it is 5s, it still could be 0) so 2.5 minutes per day and THIS is the hill we are choosing to die on?

I said 2 hours of content in 4 hours of play time. So I'm not counting the downtime waiting for content. I'm estimating at straight content, and switching every 5 seconds to prove a point. Whatever time stamp you want to slap on it, switching constantly WILL become tedious.

[joannaluttrell]

I said 2 hours of content in 4 hours of play time. So I'm not counting the downtime waiting for content. I'm estimating at straight content, and switching every 5 seconds to prove a point. Whatever time stamp you want to slap on it, switching constantly WILL become tedious.

I highly *HIGHLY* doubt we will be switching anything remotely resembling constantly. HOWEVER, I will concede your point that if I have to switch every 5 seconds it will be tedious. :P

[Ama_Hamada]

They are supposedly removing that penalty..

Where is proof of this? To me people are just saying that to make sense of the nonsense of making the role actions like they are. That also basically means you can always use all of them, just leave your menu up, leaving more hudd bloat????

They did say it is not the final version and I hope these threads are letting them think some things over. They should just make baseline abilities baseline, all this is achieving is illusion of choice.