Are role actions a nerf?

[Ogulbuk]

The system is not being simplified for players that don't read tooltips, they have said plenty of time [especially over the live letter] their big concern is how many abilities you can map to the cross bar.

Over and over they kept saying how this is going to be better for gamepad users [on every platform.]

[Wildsprite]

I actually prefer to have my skills there and not have to worry about changing them.

this is how I feel too, I find the idea of swapping them out the way they showed to be a big pain in the !@#$. they should have a seperate hot window for that or a way to macro hotswap them and make it so that those skills always swap the slot they take on your hotbar

Some people are just going to take 5 and call it a day. Others will have macros that change them.

if they make it so you can macro swap these skills so you dont have to open the window that would be great. but it still doesnt solve the fact that some of these skills should be given to the respective job without selecting them

they showed roles as a section, why not have a "important actions" selection with the most important stuff your job can use and put all of that there then just get rid of the job section keeping it seamless

[Aramina]

this is how I feel too, I find the idea of swapping them out the way they showed to be a big pain in the !@#$. they should have a seperate hot window for that or a way to macro hotswap them and make it so that those skills always swap the slot they take on your hotbar

I am not trying to be rude, honestly, but how can something that takes a few seconds be a big pain in the ass? Like... I get that you don't want to do it and that is fair, but come on now, aren't we being a little slightly over the top here?

[Vaer]

if they make it so you can macro swap these skills so you dont have to open the window that would be great.

You can already swap them with a macro, but it's a bit finicky. The command is /aaction or /additionalaction.

/additionalaction
ALIASES:
　/additionalaction, /aaction
USAGE:
　/aaction "action name" [subcommand]

→Set the specified action as an additional action for your current class.

>>Subcommands:
　on 　Set additional action.
　off 　Remove additional action.
　clear　Remove all additional actions.

Toggle between on and off when no subcommand is specified.
>>Examples:
　/aaction "Featherfoot"
　(Sets Featherfoot as an
　additional action.)

　/aaction clear
　(Removes all additional
　actions.)

[TarynH]

You are in a 8 man party and healer #2 cast Protect
Do you really need Protect too, or would you equip something else?

I'm saying Protect should just be on the job to start with. It may be "wasted space" if it's two healers, but it wastes a cross-slot if you have to equip it. It's as fundamental as having Cure. So why make it an ability you have to equip?

[LalaRu]

You are in a 8 man party and healer #2 cast Protect
Do you really need Protect too, or would you equip something else?

I'm now waiting for the first "healer kicked because bad choice of role skills" thread coming after the expansion.

[Ogulbuk]

I'm now waiting for the first "healer kicked because bad choice of role skills" thread coming after the expansion.

We already have seen these over bad choice of cross-class skills, especially at low levels. All this will do is add WHM to the target list.

[TarynH]

I'm now waiting for the first "healer kicked because bad choice of role skills" thread coming after the expansion.

I'm actually waiting for the first "kicked because I used Rescue" thread. =P

[SendohJin]

You only play tank or something? ... You do not know how much paralyze hurts casting. You do not know how much damage people can take. Protect, esuna, and swfitcast (for SCH) are needs.

i main SCH, Protect and Esuna are not needs for every fight. i will have Protect for all 4 man content, i will have Esuna if i'm not familiar with the fight but i won't have either all the time.

the t hing is actively believing that all of a sudden players will just switch these skills out accordingly is just crazy

i know that i will. i don't care what random people in DF do, bad players are bad players, you deal with them in SB the same way you deal with them now. this is not a new way for them to be extra bad, those people already did not level THM for Swiftcast. those people already do not cast Esuna when they see you have a debuff on. i don't care if i have to run an entire 4 man dungeon without Protect.

[Hamada]

i main SCH, Protect and Esuna are not needs for every fight. i will have Protect for all 4 man content, i will have Esuna if i'm not familiar with the fight but i won't have either all the time.


i know that i will. i don't care what random people in DF do, bad players are bad players, you deal with them in SB the same way you deal with them now. this is not a new way for them to be extra bad, those people already did not level THM for Swiftcast. those people already do not cast Esuna when they see you have a debuff on. i don't care if i have to run an entire 4 man dungeon without Protect.

You just contradicted yourself. I care about having protect as baseline because it means less damage taken, less to heal, means more room for dps to get runs cleared, like turning a 40 min expert into 30 because I maximize my DPS with "bad players" esuna is important because if they get hit with something they shouldn't of, well paralyze is a huge dps loss, esp when it hits a caster. Or heavy dot, healing though it vs esuna, healing though it is too much downtime.

These should be base line for a healer, not "optional bonus abilities" They are still trying to shoe horn that 1.0 system and make fee like we got choices or something. Having protect be usable as a melee or something is a "bonus option" there should be no reason why it is not baseline for healing, same with esuna.

Saying baseline abilities should be optional is so lolworthy to me, it is like, lets make fire IV optional. You do not always need fire IV afterall, you can just cast fire III and fire I. When there is a limit of 5 and 2 are needed as baseline, that is an issue