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    Ok I have to know...

    What exactly do you guys do during the AoE pulls... I have never been able to figure it out. I only know that when I have a good Ninja in party, the mobs will drop much faster. And I have no idea of where your damage comes from.

    It does not appear in the Battle Log chat... but SOMETHING you guys do is incredibly effective in an AoE multiple mob pulls.

    I have looked over your abilities and can find nothing to explain it. Closest I came was Poisoned Earth or whatever its called. I do see it when you lay it down. What else do you guys use in that situation?

    Also... what is the power you use that makes that "Cha-chink" sound?
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    Well, not really much to figure out,
    It's basically a spam of Death Blossom.
    Katon and Kassatsu Doton where needed and another Katon by the end of most of them.
    Add the use of a B4B and IR to the window and you do a bit more.

    Other than that there really isn't much else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Well, not really much to figure out,
    It's basically a spam of Death Blossom.
    Katon and Kassatsu Doton where needed and another Katon by the end of most of them.
    Add the use of a B4B and IR to the window and you do a bit more.

    Other than that there really isn't much else
    The reason I ask is, I remember once in Baelsar's Wall in the ending run to the Ilberd Fight... The tank pulled the first group and was dragging them to the end. But the ninja did something. And as I was running alongside the mob pack, I was watching them constantly tick for 800 damage, and I kept hearing this "cha-chink... cha-chink... cha chink" sound as it was going on.

    We were on the move the whole time pulling them to the end.

    But I always wondered what that was.
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    Reduced complexity, greater burst it looks like.

    Nothing exciting, but at least apart from Shadow Fang and Dancing Edge merged, gameplay doesn't seem to have been squished.

    Gotta say, I was definitely hoping for more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    The reason I ask is, I remember once in Baelsar's Wall in the ending run to the Ilberd Fight... The tank pulled the first group and was dragging them to the end. But the ninja did something. And as I was running alongside the mob pack, I was watching them constantly tick for 800 damage, and I kept hearing this "cha-chink... cha-chink... cha chink" sound as it was going on.

    We were on the move the whole time pulling them to the end.

    But I always wondered what that was.
    Death Blossom. It's their version of Ring of Thorns/Unleash, a self-centered AoE. No other AoEs are spamable or (if you consider periodic effects as "spamable") mobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    I was watching them constantly tick for 800 damage, and I kept hearing this "cha-chink... cha-chink... cha chink" sound as it was going on.
    Most likely that was Death Blossom. There is no real reason for a NIN to wait for the Tank to stop running to begin their assault. If they steal agro from you while doing this, they can Shadewalker you so they get back to you. It is also viable to throw a Katon while on the move if they are doing this.

    To be less intrusive it is also possible to spam Mutilate on every possible target until the tank stops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    On mobile so can't edit.... I prefer katon over doton most of the time since it can crit....
    On Kassatsu every tick of Doton is a crit. Personally I use Katon > Kassatsu Katon if the target doesn't look like it'll live long anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    The reason I ask is, I remember once in Baelsar's Wall in the ending run to the Ilberd Fight... The tank pulled the first group and was dragging them to the end. But the ninja did something. And as I was running alongside the mob pack, I was watching them constantly tick for 800 damage, and I kept hearing this "cha-chink... cha-chink... cha chink" sound as it was going on.

    We were on the move the whole time pulling them to the end.

    But I always wondered what that was.
    Ninja's only AoE weaponskill is called Death Blossom. It's that ka-chink sound that you heard, and it can be spammed on the move. It's a 110 potency attack with no damage scaling for more targets, and has no cast time. So that was probably it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Well, not really much to figure out,
    It's basically a spam of Death Blossom.
    Katon and Kassatsu Doton where needed and another Katon by the end of most of them.
    Add the use of a B4B and IR to the window and you do a bit more.

    Other than that there really isn't much else
    Pretty much this.... especially since death blossom got its to cost reduced and it's damage buffed.... drop doton on the ground, kassatsu > katon, death blossom spam.... I'll pick off single targets here and there using the combo ending with armor crush to keep Huton up...
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    On mobile so can't edit.... I prefer katon over doton most of the time since it can crit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Rewatching the twitch video where we see the NIN apply Shadow Fang (and the Slashing debuff) they also use Duality + Armor Crush
    I noticed that 3 numbers came up:

    a 5K critical hit
    a 3.4k normal hit
    and a 1k normal hit

    I am supposing the 1k one is an auto-attack, and the 5k and 3.4k are from Duality. This may mean that either they changed Duality so the first strike can Crit, or they removed the "Can\\\\'t Crit with Duality" part.

    Snapshot at 1:45:44

    Edit: NVM, not a guaranteed crit

    With Duality AE at 1:38:27

    But it seems like they CAN crit

    Edit 2: There is another one

    Another Duality AE at 1:43:03

    .SNIP

    Or is that from the new stat direct hit which is a mini crit. The reason I said that was because of the exclamation point on the crit number. I think they showed that when they were talking about direct hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    Or is that from the new stat direct hit which is a mini crit.
    Hrm... I don't think thats the one, after all in the 3 pictures we see a set of 3 numbers, 2 of them coming from Duality, and another is an auto-attack.
    I don't really think a direct hit will crit for 5k meanwhile Duality does a strike of 3k and another of 1k.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Once more. Not sure why this is a concern.
    Well, nothing more to say then. It IS a personal concern.


    On another note: taking it from the Job Skills showcase video. While the ground chain Jutsu is active, auto-attacks will not stop, but they will not charge ninki until the ground thingy is out.
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 05-27-2017 at 02:36 AM.

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