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    Sigiria's Avatar
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    Nergui Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuya View Post
    Also - idk if i remember correctly but i think i read in patch notes that Determination effect has been incresed?
    Yeah it has been increased and from what I tested quite a bit. I tried primals extreme dummy to check my dps when I upgraded from ilvl306 to 309 and noticed I lost on average 100dps. the difference was my determination lowered from 1140 to 900 so I revererted to an old ilvl300 belt and 2 other accessories lost 18dex in the process and got back to ~1100 det and suddenly I'm doing 100dps more again.

    Now I'm really curious to have someone test the stats weight because I kinda feel like they broke the determination again
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    Aiot O'lein
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    About Crit and Direc, I have about 1.2k on both and it seems like I'm having a Crit rate of 10~13% vs a Direct Hit of 20~30%
    Would need to get on a dummy for a large amount of time for this tho.

    SO, finally I got to try Ten Chi Jin and... oh god it feels horrible...
    The recasts should be lowered to 0.5 seconds or not affect the mudras, really >_>;;

    It hits hard and its sweet to see a 10k+ crit Raiton but, ugh...
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    Kandy Kayn
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    Changes to NIN are amazing, such as increased potency and lower TP on weaponskills, reduced CD for Dream within a Dream, passive 20% increase with Dripping Blades II, etc. However, I have to agree with the above posts in regards to Ten-Chi-Jin. The recasts take just way too long. Feels like there is a 1 to 2 second lag between execution of each ninjustsu when using Ten-Chi-Jin, when there should be 0.1 - 0.5 sec. Yes, you have to be immobile when using Ten-Chi-Jin, but that's a trade-off due to double potency on all nunjutsus used. Other than that, it's a great ability.
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    Adelle Crescent
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    Would be nice if the Suiton granted from using TCJ gave an enhanced Suiton that doesn't wear off until after Trick Attack is used.

    http://ffxivrotations.com/s0m

    Edit*2 moved some off gcd abilities around

    The Bhavacakra opener and it works perfectly like it was specifically desighned to be used in this combination.

    So you'll be using two normal shurikens after this opener and immediately after the second shuriken is when you will TCJ. Suiton will have roughly one second remaining by the time your Trick attack comes off of cooldown. Also, there is a chance of going over 100 ninki as the timing is close but it's avoidable.
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    Last edited by Adelaide3; 06-28-2017 at 07:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide3 View Post
    Would be nice if the Suiton granted from using TCJ gave an enhanced Suiton that doesn't wear off until after Trick Attack is used.
    Or TCJ reset TA :/
    Because I have to agree it lines up better for the 2nd TA than the first...
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Bring Back Dancing Edge! > or change the stupid 3rd Combo animation (that gives 30sec Huton boost) to Dancing Edge one! CANT play current ninja like that!
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    I know that gripe...
    Dancing Edge was my favorite NIN skill animation, followed by Shadow Fang which thankfully stayed.

    On the TCJ to TA synch...
    I changed my opener to this

    Going for a Ninki rotation of Bhava > TCJ > Bhava as someone suggested before.
    On the 2nd time you get Ninki past the 80 points mark 50 seconds in the fight TA will be almost ready so its a sweet spot for TCJ to be used comfortably (supposing there are not too many disconnections).

    So far it has worked me wonders on all content I've tried it out.

    I really wish they had given the Ninki generation to DwaD or Jugulate or reduced the Mug cd time tho =-=
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 06-28-2017 at 12:34 AM.

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