Ninja

[SuperNoob]

Hi fellow ninja. I really no want to leave ninja. I had been maining this since mid arr... its my second job since I realise tanking as pld is stressful.

Had done endgame with this... flow so smooth...

[Arkenne]

Well, its true that the GCD rotation for NIN got so simple that is plain (and painfully) dead easy.
From all the melees, its the one with the least combos now :/
It's something so weird given the double daggers and all...
Oh well, at least we are magical~♪ (I guess?)

[Arkenne]

Most likely, yes, one needs aprox 9 GCDs to get to the 80 Ninki with Mug.

Its killing me the unknown factor of what happens with TenCJ if Mudras are on CD tho...
Because if TenCJ enables 3 Ninjutsus even if its on CD, it means 5 Jutsus in a row... Natural + Kassatsu + 3 TenCJ
But if it doesn't...

[Sigmakan]

I think ideally you'd want your potion to also be in effect for TCJ. I also think you can get TA and TCJ out much quicker. Here is the rotation I have:
http://ffxivrotations.com/qqv

It needs a bit more oGCD optimization, but I do think doing TA after the 5th GCD results in the best opener.

[Adelaide3]

I think ideally you'd want your potion to also be in effect for TCJ. I also think you can get TA and TCJ out much quicker. Here is the rotation I have:
http://ffxivrotations.com/qqv

It needs a bit more oGCD optimization, but I do think doing TA after the 5th GCD results in the best opener.

Optimized version would be the Bhavacakra opener:
http://ffxivrotations.com/qr0

Only one problem, Trick Attack won't last long enough for Ten Chi Jin so I came up with that other one to show what it takes to use it in an opener and to still have everything fit. Although, I don't think it would be a problem to just use TCJ outside of TA so just have this opener for everything based on add phases and preference.

Edit* Please don't hurt my soul by using TCJ with this opener when you can land Bhava with TA and Potion.

[Kartisan]

I switched to nin main sometime in 2.x and the change that saddens me is the loss of Dancing Edge, I am fine with changes to what it does or even if it were to be made into some sort of oGCD WS or one trigged by certain ninjutsu or other proc.....I just really liked its animation and am saddened it is disappearing... -.-,

[Arkenne]

the loss of Dancing Edge. -.-,

That moment when you realize NIN has less GCDs than PLD... :/
I also like DE animation more than AE :/ (even if its actually 3 slashes with the right hand dagger only).

...

Actually, why do we have 2 daggers again?? SE and GS can easily be done with one dagger and all AE, DE and AC are a single dagger hit animation...

In fact MU, DwaD and TA/SA are the only skills that use both daggers...

[Klarkus]

How are you going to get TCJ in with the second trick attack when it takes 20 seconds for ninjutsu? You've still gotta wait for it as TCJ isn't a skill it's just a combo which means when you cast suiton you get 10 seconds before trick attack the 10 seconds during trick attack then you can cast TCJ which will be the end of vulnerability. So it won't work.

Never mind I didn't know it was an actual skill. In which case from the video it definitely does reset ninjitsu so you will be able to get the TCJ combos in with trick attack. Gg.

[Laflama_Blanca]

TCJ does not line up with the 2nd trick attack in any of the proposed openers so far.

With the Bhavacakra opener you are using 1st trick at ~8 seconds and TCJ will be ready around ~43 seconds (depending on auto attack speed, just an estimate). 2nd trick comes out around 68 seconds, so 2nd Bhava should also be able to line up in trick attack, which is nice. 2nd TCJ comes off of cooldown around 143 seconds, so it could be worked into the 4th trick attack or use the last Suiton to start trick attack.

With TA before 1st TCJ opener, you can also work TCJ into your 3rd TA by delaying it slightly. The Suiton from TCJ #3 could also be used to start TA #5.

[Arkenne]

TCJ does not line up with the 2nd trick attack in any of the proposed openers so far.

Uuh... but I was looking for an opener that could have TCJ on the first TA?
Besides, given the nature of Ninki generation, I find the alignments of CDs with Ninki skills rather unreliable outside the first 20 seconds...
Past that it seems like it will really differ depending on the battle.