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  1. #111
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    Hopefully they all get ugly level 60 armor so they feel the pain of glam...
    If it's the level 60, ilvl 150 set for tanks, I agree....lol I really don't like that Adamantite Lorica of Fending set, it looks ridiculous when I try it on, there's so much extra room inside, you could fit another miqo'te in there with me.
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  2. #112
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I guess if I had a complaint it'd be they have the specialization system which locks your character's crafting capability down, and so this system sort of comes in and says "ooh look at me, I'm mr. mese-- I'm a free level on your alt so you can have all the specializations". Although the feeling really stems from the specialization system I guess and not the potions.
    Don't work on DoH and DoL classes. You have to level them up oldschool.
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  3. #113
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Don't work on DoH and DoL classes. You have to level them up oldschool.
    OH What? I'm deaf ;(... Can you help me find out where that was? It's very likely 99% my fault since I was playing HotS while listening xD..

    So I've seen these two:



    And I didn't hear "DoW/DoM" only but.. did I miss that?
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  4. #114
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    And I didn't hear "DoW/DoM" only but.. did I miss that?
    DoH and DoL don't have jobs and the potion is only for jobs. No class is mentioned. Also no tool is mentioned. Only jobs and weapons.
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  5. #115
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 90
    They said there are thirteen of them, one for each job excluding RDM and SAM.
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  6. #116
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    Dameron Blakesley
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    Zodiark
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I can't say I agree with the implementation of level boosting and story skipping, but I guess we can only wait and see how things will turn out.

    So long as the boost stays restricted to outdated content, it should hopefully not harm the current content in a significant way.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    DoH and DoL don't have jobs and the potion is only for jobs. No class is mentioned. Also no tool is mentioned. Only jobs and weapons.
    Ah.. I guess I cant help but sometimes think of everything as a job, but we do still have "classes" yay... lol. I like your reasoning though and find it solid , both the wording weapon and job make it seem like DoH/DoL are not included.
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  8. #118
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Well it seems that money has won again. Now they will keep the old ARR story like it was thus making it not less annoying for those that wont buy it and who knows if this wont be mandatory in the long run.

    Still not sure how someone wants to convince their friends to play a game that they did not really want to play through anyway. I mean that friend has to buy ARR, HW and SB. On top of that they have to buy the jump options for the story and the jump potion for the job. (And lets hope that they enjoy that job at 60 otherwise they either need to level the hard way or need to buy another one too if thats even possible) And if they want to play at all they have to pay the sub too. SB itself will be around 30-50€, you might get ARR+HW in a cheap bundle but its still some money and on top of that more than 30+ € to skip ahead. Do people really want that their friends have to pay around 100€ +/- to start playing the game with them? I would never go to a friend that is not willing to play through it and talk about this option..because I would feel really bad that they have to pay that to start playing it. There are a lot of other MMOs or multiplayer games out there that you can use to play with your friends.

    I am kinda curious if we will see more threads about bad endgame, "same as always" and "its boring" in SB since people that will start playing the game and skip it will also reach endgame way sooner. And lets be realistic, most of them wont be able to go into extreme primals or even savage raids without at least some time learning. And they also need to gear up too. So they will probably jump over the whole old story, will also only have to level up to 70 (which might be kinda harsh too since they have no idea about the game) and the only true thing they will do after that 10 levels is grinding the two endgame dungeons for gear.

    Also I do know that not everyone that buys it will be bad and we already have enough of bad players even without that. Still you suddenly get to level 60 without doing even one single dungeon or solo trial. Also on top of that those people are new to the game too so its double the confusion. I kinda remember how long it took to understand the game and its gameplay and how many hours I needed to get good at my summoner, because even while running all those dungeons, it just needs time and training to truly understand your job. And I would say that I am not dumb or slow to learn. Even after playing this game for a long time and having a DD job at 60 I still needed my time to get good as healer or playing as a melee DD. I cant imagine that someone completely new can just be good at their job within some weeks, at least not the majority of buyers.

    Well in the end I will brace myself for all the new SB threads, with lots of popcorn in my bags. Oh and hope that the money from this potion will at least be used for FF14.
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  9. #119
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I mean that friend has to buy ARR, HW and SB. On top of that they have to buy the jump options for the story and the jump potion for the job.
    The one who invited him can buy it for him. Or they share the cost. And he really don't need the job potion, only if he want get at lv 60 really fast. Second fast way (and cheaper) is PotD
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-24-2017 at 02:19 PM.

  10. #120
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    That does not sound much fun. x) Start the game only to grind it away till 60 in content that is not that exiting. After that, leveling 10 levels the normal way only to have to grind in endgame again. I just hope that those who chose that way wont come into the forum to complain about not having much to do after only playing for a short amount of time. I mean, I myself are a little bored right now because everything that I can still do (and that interest me at least a little) is behind a mindless grind. But I am playing this game for at least two years now and since I have friends in this game and invested quite some time in it I wont just quit but just play less till the expansion. Someone that has no long time investment might just quit forever. So I am just not sure if this will truly be the solution for all those friends that did not want to play it till now. But thankfully its not my money.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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