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  1. #1
    Player
    Centershock's Avatar
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    Sorry but no matter how much I think about this, these potions totally seem like Pay to Win. I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE LINE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button. Square-Enix is basically just telling me what I'm doing right now is completely pointless, buy one of these nifty pay 2 win potions and you'll be good.
    It would truly be a P2W situation if the Mog Station had the same items that drop in, say, Omega Savage 1-4. *THAT* would truly be P2W. But that's not what's going on here.

    All these potions do is catch you up. One sort of potion takes you to Patch 3.0 or 4.0, and the other sort of potion gets a job to level 60. Not 70. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to catch up to the beginning of Stormblood. They'll have to go through the Stormblood MSQ just like everyone else. Take a look at it this way: once you are done with the MSQ for Patch 3.56, you won't have to worry about being left behind once the expac is released.

    If all of this is diminishing your desire to continue playing this game, then maybe this isn't the game for you. I have been playing this game since 2013 and I can honestly say that I've had a great time since then. These "potions" do not affect me in any way, nor should it affect you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    Sorry but no matter how much I think about this, these potions totally seem like Pay to Win. I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE LINE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button. Square-Enix is basically just telling me what I'm doing right now is completely pointless, buy one of these nifty pay 2 win potions and you'll be good.
    the finish is Lv 70 and Stormblood, nobody is finished at Lv 60 with one job and done with Heavensward.

    if you don't enjoy what you're doing now you can wait for the potions too.
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    Nestmile's Avatar
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    Gerv'as Van
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    -Snip-
    I don't really understand this mindset. Reaching endgame isn't really "winning" -- everyone's going to get there eventually. It's not (at least in my view) as clearly defined of a "finish line" as you seem to think. Who really cares if they get there faster by paying to not play the game? If you're "trying to experience as much of the game as you can," why would you care about optional items that rob you of that experience? Is what you're doing "pointless" if you're enjoying the content and learning to play more effectively at the same time?
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    thegreatonemal's Avatar
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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Marilith
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    . I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE LINE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button.
    sounds like you shouldn't be playing games to begin with. this is a game play for fun all of that stuff your doing is an experience your supposed to enjoy it what anyone else is doing as long as its not exploiting and cheating should have no bearing on you. if it does it has nothing to do with them and everything to do with you.
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    snip.
    I get the feeling, but level boost potions are basically an industry standard at this point. Also, they are mostly used by people who have already gone through the grind and don't want to do it again on an alt. A lot of games provide a free one with expansions and such, and even then a lot of new players will level a character up to max the good ol' fashioned way first to avoid feeling completely lost.

    What you're doing right now isn't pointless. Try to enjoy the journey more, and don't stress out over what others are doing so much.
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    Ashua Rajin
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Cant wait for Savage level gear to be put on the mogstation. Itleast now it will be legit pay to win goto SE over people selling savage runs for rmt.
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashua View Post
    Cant wait for Savage level gear to be put on the mogstation. Itleast now it will be legit pay to win goto SE over people selling savage runs for rmt.
    Your bait is weak, mate.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

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    Ashua Rajin
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    Not sure where you are getting at? The first two ads shown on the ff reddit are links to RMT websites that offer runs for gear and even sell 260 I level accounts and Savage mounts. Seems like a legit comment imo. Its already happening so it least SE will get the funds directly over third parties.
    (1)

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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashua View Post
    Not sure where you are getting at? The first two ads shown on the ff reddit are links to RMT websites that offer runs for gear and even sell 260 I level accounts and Savage mounts. Seems like a legit comment imo. Its already happening so it least SE will get the funds directly over third parties.
    ads that the reddit moderators have been trying to get rid of. /r/WoW had the same problem with gold selling sites.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashua View Post
    Not sure where you are getting at? The first two ads shown on the ff reddit are links to RMT websites that offer runs for gear and even sell 260 I level accounts and Savage mounts. Seems like a legit comment imo. Its already happening so it least SE will get the funds directly over third parties.
    please give me links to the websites lolololol
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