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  1. #61
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    Greedalox's Avatar
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    MSQ titles are nothing worth bragging about.
    Pretty much this. Mounts, Titles and Pets earned from MSQ aren't unique is ANY sense. If you're going to be opposed to Story Jumping, make sure your points against it aren't so benign.

    *You as in everyone, not the person I'm quoting :3*
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  2. #62
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    Zigabar's Avatar
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    Sorry but no matter how much I think about this, these potions totally seem like Pay to Win. I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button. Square-Enix is basically just telling me what I'm doing right now is completely pointless, buy one of these nifty pay 2 win potions and you'll be good.
    Interesting. My 4+ years of motivation and enjoyment don't feel diminished at all by this addition. They got there faster than I did, but I enjoyed the ride.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  3. #63
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    Kano Michio
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    Sorry but no matter how much I think about this, these potions totally seem like Pay to Win. I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button. Square-Enix is basically just telling me what I'm doing right now is completely pointless, buy one of these nifty pay 2 win potions and you'll be good.
    Then get to buyin'.
    (3)
    I am the Fist of Retribution

  4. #64
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    Centershock's Avatar
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    Sorry but no matter how much I think about this, these potions totally seem like Pay to Win. I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE LINE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button. Square-Enix is basically just telling me what I'm doing right now is completely pointless, buy one of these nifty pay 2 win potions and you'll be good.
    It would truly be a P2W situation if the Mog Station had the same items that drop in, say, Omega Savage 1-4. *THAT* would truly be P2W. But that's not what's going on here.

    All these potions do is catch you up. One sort of potion takes you to Patch 3.0 or 4.0, and the other sort of potion gets a job to level 60. Not 70. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to catch up to the beginning of Stormblood. They'll have to go through the Stormblood MSQ just like everyone else. Take a look at it this way: once you are done with the MSQ for Patch 3.56, you won't have to worry about being left behind once the expac is released.

    If all of this is diminishing your desire to continue playing this game, then maybe this isn't the game for you. I have been playing this game since 2013 and I can honestly say that I've had a great time since then. These "potions" do not affect me in any way, nor should it affect you.
    (7)

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    Sorry but no matter how much I think about this, these potions totally seem like Pay to Win. I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE LINE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button. Square-Enix is basically just telling me what I'm doing right now is completely pointless, buy one of these nifty pay 2 win potions and you'll be good.
    the finish is Lv 70 and Stormblood, nobody is finished at Lv 60 with one job and done with Heavensward.

    if you don't enjoy what you're doing now you can wait for the potions too.
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  6. #66
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    Nestmile's Avatar
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    Gerv'as Van
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    -Snip-
    I don't really understand this mindset. Reaching endgame isn't really "winning" -- everyone's going to get there eventually. It's not (at least in my view) as clearly defined of a "finish line" as you seem to think. Who really cares if they get there faster by paying to not play the game? If you're "trying to experience as much of the game as you can," why would you care about optional items that rob you of that experience? Is what you're doing "pointless" if you're enjoying the content and learning to play more effectively at the same time?
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  7. #67
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    thegreatonemal's Avatar
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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Marilith
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    . I'm a returning player. I'm pushing through this content, grinding out jobs and trying to experience as much of this game as I can and putting in all that effort. Only here comes Mr. Lv5 noob; "HEY BRAH, *Gulps down P2W potion*, SEE YA AT THE LINE FINISH BRAH *WAVES*". ME: *SPEECHLESS*.. My motivation to keep playing this game is slowly diminishing knowing that there are people literally just skipping 75% of the games content with the click of button.
    sounds like you shouldn't be playing games to begin with. this is a game play for fun all of that stuff your doing is an experience your supposed to enjoy it what anyone else is doing as long as its not exploiting and cheating should have no bearing on you. if it does it has nothing to do with them and everything to do with you.
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  8. #68
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    Chris Chronos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    Then get to buyin'.
    I would not stoop to such levels. I'm really not that desparate to reach the new expansion content. However, that crushing feeling that I'm just wasting my time will probably never go away knowing that in the back of my mind this option to skip 75% of the games content with the click of a button actually exists. And I imagine a lot of new players that join this game will also have that same feeling. Not every new player is going to want to skip content. But I don't think they will be as motivated to go through that early content knowing that pretty much everyone has moved onto the new expansion and Square-Enix is dangling a P2W potion in their faces. I wish I didn't stop playing before the heavensward expansion.. Then I would actually be caught up to everyone and this wouldn't feel as bad.
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  9. #69
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    IHowever, that crushing feeling that I'm just wasting my time will probably never go away knowing that in the back of my mind this option to skip 75% of the games content with the click of a button actually exists. And I imagine a lot of new players that join this game will also have that same feeling. Not every new player is going to want to skip content. But I don't think they will be as motivated to go through that early content knowing that pretty much everyone has moved onto the new expansion and Square-Enix is dangling a P2W potion in their faces. I wish I didn't stop playing before the heavensward expansion.. Then I would actually be caught up to everyone and this wouldn't feel as bad.
    It's only in your head that you feel that way (I swear I don't mean to basically quote Jimmy Eat World, it just applies). Stop basing your experience on someone else's and you'll have a lot more fun.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  10. #70
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Riot View Post
    snip.
    I get the feeling, but level boost potions are basically an industry standard at this point. Also, they are mostly used by people who have already gone through the grind and don't want to do it again on an alt. A lot of games provide a free one with expansions and such, and even then a lot of new players will level a character up to max the good ol' fashioned way first to avoid feeling completely lost.

    What you're doing right now isn't pointless. Try to enjoy the journey more, and don't stress out over what others are doing so much.
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