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    Medicine's Avatar
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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    P2W isn't really the problem, it's more that people will suddenly be lvl 60 in lvl 60 dungeons having no experience on their job. So if you think dungeons are bad now... oooo boy...
    You think they're gonna have a level boost potion and not give a walkthrough on how to play their class? They will.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    You think their gonna have a level boost potion and not give a walkthrough on how to play their class? They will.
    This implies that people who buy jump potions will sit through a tutorial or retain information. Jump potions in WoW had the same effect.
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    This implies that people who buy jump potions will sit through a tutorial or retain information. Jump potions in WoW had the same effect.
    Given the level 60 Dragoon I encountered recently in Sohr Kai that largely spammed Heavy Thrust and Impulse Drive?

    It's not the jump potions that lead to a player not retaining information (or seeking it out in the first place), it's the player themselves.
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    Queue all the people that don't know what 'P2W' means.
    Que the person who defines P2W. While I don't consider leveling a gate to completing the game, some do. Completing that gate for cash is P2W. Win is subjective in MMO.
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    Corydor Whitestar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Que the person who defines P2W. While I don't consider leveling a gate to completing the game, some do. Completing that gate for cash is P2W. Win is subjective in MMO.
    they only get the levels and there job quests done and basic level 60 gear everything else they get no tomestones and no gil, and there are 0 for stormblood or for the new jobs so you can't use it to insta level a sam or rdm to 60
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    they only get the levels and there job quests done and basic level 60 gear everything else they get no tomestones and no gil, and there are 0 for stormblood or for the new jobs so you can't use it to insta level a sam or rdm to 60
    I watched a live stream on twitch where they were discussing how people define P2W. The point is specially for older MMO players, leveling is suppose to weed out some players, If a player can't get through the grind of content it is one less person at the end/win. They discussed it a lot better. Player retention in 11 showed most players never made it to 50. So they in no way could win, they quit. They may have been better players. But you can't win if you don't play.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 05-23-2017 at 05:02 AM.

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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    plus this price will not disuade rmt to create bot with this sort of item... *sighs*

    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Not really - I don't see many completely new, completely unsupported by friends player coming in, buying $60 for the game up through Stormblood and then dropping another $50 to skip to that and get a level boost.
    you know some people have way too much money and do silly thing with it... i have seen this in many game before
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    plus this price will not disuade rmt to create bot with this sort of item... *sighs*
    It's a complete waste of money for RMT. They need to buy the entire game, plus the expansion, then $50 on potions per account that inevitably gets banned. It's not worth the money for them.
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    you know some people have way too much money and do silly thing with it... i have seen this in many game before
    Some, but not enough to be worried about.
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    The new boost potions to buy a realm reborn and hevenwards just main story boost will cost the same a full price full game LOL
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