PVP changes from livestream.

[Mirch]

I come back two days ago and tried first time that feast mode and it is not active at all. With healer i manged get some games in the prime time, but even that take sometimes over 30min. In the morning you have no hope get que at all. Not all players have multiple jobs leveled and most of them want to play with their main class even in pvp. We need changes for this make pvp more active. We have nothing to lose at this point. Even if you like current pvp 90% time in queue can not bring any good gameplay exprience.

it does pop from afternoon to latenight, also depends on your current tier.

they havent say anything about the matchmakings?like new changes or sumthing btw?

[SuperZay]

I come back two days ago and tried first time that feast mode and it is not active at all. With healer i manged get some games in the prime time, but even that take sometimes over 30min.

That's not true at all. If you look at Chaos Top 100 some people did over 700-1000 ranked matches this season which would be impossible with long wait times. And 8vs8 has less than 5 minute pops for months.

[BloodRubyXII]

That's not true at all. If you look at Chaos Top 100 some people did over 700-1000 ranked matches this season which would be impossible with long wait times. And 8vs8 has less than 5 minute pops for months.

Some of them have multi-classed/queued for the job with the lowest time to fill. I could play that many games too if I queued as scholar all the time, but queue as any kind of ranged and you could be waiting 15-30 minutes as a queue. I'd say you'd be lucky to see 10 games a day and spend more time queueing for them than actually playing in them as a ranged, idk about tank/melee (I queued drk a few times and got 5-15min queues). If I recall you predominantly played tank before? So your queues are kinda short. Could be wrong, I stopped queueing mid-april because I went back to work and I didn't feel like spending most of my evening to queue for 2 or 3 matches (and I'm fairly sure I'm already safe on Elemental); and I do remember you not queueing a large amount at the time; so IDR what you play. But the point is if you work full time or school or something, remembering that queues don't really start before like 1-2PM and are dead by 11 on most days, you are lucky to play a few games a day.


I mean just going down the list, Haki queues nonstop, even if he has to wait ages. And he is on literally every day and most of every day, I don't even think he works lol. Yuni is a healer. Livie is a tank. Makenshi is a healer. Mikasa? Also a healer. And a really active one too. Male XIII - also a healer, Commander Justitia - tank that has also queued as filler healer. Do you see where I'm going for this, sure, you can get 700+ games if you queue literally every day whilst queues are live as a healer. I mean I see your point because Sunako is queueing healer, but even then it can be dead and -is- dead outside of prime regardless of what you queue as. If there is only one other healer in queue too then yeah, I'm not surprised they're getting 30 min queues as you're essentially waiting for them if they take a break.

Also take into account most of those healers queued from the first early part of s4 when literally anyone could get games quick. Loads of people are sitting now too since 2200 is pmuch safe.

[Sunako]

asd.

Indeed and it was just example. I tried que with tank, healer and dps and que times are pretty dead. Mainly i wanna que with my summoner because it have been my main class that i have played since 2.0, but those ques take usually something between 20 - 40minutes. Because feast have been active in the first weeks, that not mean it is popular at all. I really like feast lot more than frontline, but these que times make me wonder why I even play this game. Pvp is like last reason play this game if it is like this. We need huge improvements for pvp make it more active. This can not stay like this.

[Stormfur]

In choosing the traits/abilities, there's going to be a best build no matter what. I don't know why developers try to give the illusion of choice.

[Kai_Lee]

I heard from several pvpers they actually like wolves den better then feast but lvl 50 pvp has less abilities but more enjoyable then lvl 60? Or should SE bump the next pvp mode to lvl 70 and give us 5-7 more abilities on top of what we already have? And then in 5.0 we can have even more abilities on top of the bloated abilities we currently have and in 6.0 even more abilities and everyone can enjoy pvping with 70-80 abilities. Becausethat sounds like fun.

[Koltik]

I heard from several pvpers they actually like wolves den better then feast but lvl 50 pvp has less abilities but more enjoyable then lvl 60? Or should SE bump the next pvp mode to lvl 70 and give us 5-7 more abilities on top of what we already have? And then in 5.0 we can have even more abilities on top of the bloated abilities we currently have and in 6.0 even more abilities and everyone can enjoy pvping with 70-80 abilities. Becausethat sounds like fun.

I think you're missing the point. They're scaling all of PvP equally, so in theory all current and future PvP modes will have players capped the same. There will be no more level 50 cap, 60 cap, etc. issues because we are all synced equally with the same abilities whenever we are in any sort of PvP.

[Kai_Lee]

I was being sarcastic, what i mean is the abilities bloat can get out of hand if SE just continue on their current trend. Its better to reform sooner then later.

[Mature]

I heard from several pvpers they actually like wolves den better then feast but lvl 50 pvp has less abilities but more enjoyable then lvl 60? Or should SE bump the next pvp mode to lvl 70 and give us 5-7 more abilities on top of what we already have? And then in 5.0 we can have even more abilities on top of the bloated abilities we currently have and in 6.0 even more abilities and everyone can enjoy pvping with 70-80 abilities. Becausethat sounds like fun.

But people doing feast don't use or do more than 1 rotation and it's a hide behind wall and button mashing. So I don't understand all this complaints about not having enough actions?

[Keramory]

To each their own in terms of what they think of the changes... but I'm excited for this.

I was never one who thought more buttons = more skills. In fact more buttons annoyed me despite being proficient with them.

I'm a huge dota head admittedly, so the few buttons attract me even more. Completely different game I know but I'm in love with what I see.

Always enjoyed PvP. Going to enjoy it more. Just wish they'd bring chat back