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    Player
    Crysten's Avatar
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    THANK. GOD.

    This was honestly one of the biggest changes I was hoping for and gets rid of what I personally think is a massive problem with terrible, lazy players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Yep, this change is a big one. Fewer options for PvP but no more people using wrong accessories to increase ILvL.

    Edit: Later onm during the stream, they announced all PvP changes and now gear is not relevant anymore there.
    Gear in 4.0 will do nothing for PVP. It will only affect your appearance.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    I don't think the gear cheating was the main focus of this lol.

    It's a tank nerf.
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I don't think the gear cheating was the main focus of this lol.

    It's a tank nerf.
    Not sure how it could be seen as a tank nerf... Tanks wear VIT accessories, just as they should, since they provide just as much DPS as STR, but with added HP as well. They'll wear the same accessories before and after this change.

    It's more a nerf for DPS and healers who might wear VIT pieces for the extra survivability. They will no longer be able to do so.
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Not sure how it could be seen as a tank nerf... Tanks wear VIT accessories, just as they should, since they provide just as much DPS as STR, but with added HP as well. They'll wear the same accessories before and after this change.

    It's more a nerf for DPS and healers who might wear VIT pieces for the extra survivability. They will no longer be able to do so.
    Apparently VIT will no longer contribute to dps, I believe I read they are reverting back to only strength increasing dps.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhais View Post
    Apparently VIT will no longer contribute to dps, I believe I read they are reverting back to only strength increasing dps.
    This is what it is. Tank damage is back to 100% STR, but now we can't use STR accessories.

    Its a fairly major nerf for tank damage.
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    James Oakes
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Not sure how it could be seen as a tank nerf... Tanks wear VIT accessories, just as they should, since they provide just as much DPS as STR, but with added HP as well. They'll wear the same accessories before and after this change.

    It's more a nerf for DPS and healers who might wear VIT pieces for the extra survivability. They will no longer be able to do so.
    Is there talk about the Vit damage getting removed?
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    Domeric's Avatar
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    Character
    Kano Michio
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 71
    Wait I've been buying the proto ultima monk off pieces for samurai. Does this mean I've wasted weeks of tokens?
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    I am the Fist of Retribution

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    HiroKirito's Avatar
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    Hiro Azumi
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    Wait I've been buying the proto ultima monk off pieces for samurai. Does this mean I've wasted weeks of tokens?
    OP'S title is worded wrong, locked by role not class. i.e. tanks can only use vit acc. No more str ones, no more non tanks using vit acc for a hp boost.
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HiroKirito View Post
    ...no more non tanks using vit acc for a hp boost.
    That's not an improvement. That extra hp let me survive bad situations and saved the day.

    I guess I'm in the few exceptions that were using a few other job's accessories knowing what to do and why. But, at the end, it were just one ring to me. Will deal with it and welcome the change too, for one that uses them appropriately, another hundred were trolling so the change is welcome.
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