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  1. #11
    Player
    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Perhaps you missed the PvP changes where your gear isn't taken into account anymore?
    Yeah it's more role based PvP, like GW2 where you went in as lets say a Guardian and your HP would be X amount just like an elementalist had X amount of HP, tanks will have 12500, healers/casters like 10k, melee probably 11k so we'll see when PvP actually comes which i'm surprisingly excited for more PvP as the Garo event revitalized my love for Frontlines.
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  2. #12
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    MomomiMomi's Avatar
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Less options for PvP
    As already stated, gear isn't taken into account in PvP anymore.
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  3. #13
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Aya Hamada
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Yep, this change is a big one. Less options for PvP but no more people using wrong accessories to increase ILvL.
    The bold is not relevant anyway once 4.0 hits, he even said "gear is only for looks"

    Also people can still bypass ilevel by high right (eaiser gear to get) with low left. Hope this means no crafting and gathering gear for combat jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    My issue was you claiming "if the game lets you enter it's not a problem". Which is why I posted that example in my last post, which you didn't comment on for some reason, about Queueing as a tank for level 60 dungeons with full crafting gear and healing accessories on.



    This is a tank queueing for a dungeon wearing all crafting gear and healing accessories and level 50 weapon going into level 60 content. The game let me do it. So I guess it isn't a problem?

    You believe if the game let him enter then there is no problem and that there is only a problem if he changes gear inside the instance, but in the end you are just ignoring the fact that the reason for this thread is the fact that he could actually queue with that weapon (I checked on my BLM and equipping an i110 weapon only brought me down to i240), or he could switch to it inside the duty, and BOTH scenarios are a problem.
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  4. #14
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I have concerns.
    Mostly Glamor concerns.


    I hope all the future accessories will share aesthetics, so they aren't locked from use just because you're a different job.

    I also hope this isn't retroactive, there are some accessories I like the looks of but they have looks that vary based on which job they are designed for.

    The allegan ones in particular.
    I liked how those looked, and there are different colored ones, which are locked into specific jobs having a specific color.
    I'd hate to have my accessory color locked just because I'm on a job that SE decided that's what that job has to use.
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  5. #15
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    The_Shang's Avatar
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    Character
    Shan Aurelius
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    This is a change I gladly welcome. Too many times have I seen players with incorrect right sides doing high level stuff, this would be a nice wake-up call for them.
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  6. #16
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    OcieKo's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ociela Koslun
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Goodbye replacing crappy healers in old content by using my usually better healing accs on blm/smn.

    Also reduces the ability to buff your hp when you gear is barely making ilvl, or turning a dps into an OT easier by using tank accs...

    Indifferent on this issue really, tho its gunna cause nightmares for the glamour system. Well maybe itll accelerate work on a revamp of that system when it inevitably makes inventory issues even worse.
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  7. #17
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Crysten Kimura
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    THANK. GOD.

    This was honestly one of the biggest changes I was hoping for and gets rid of what I personally think is a massive problem with terrible, lazy players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  8. #18
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    TarynH's Avatar
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    Character
    Taryn Holigard
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    The bold is not relevant anyway once 4.0 hits, he even said "gear is only for looks"
    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting psyched for nekkid PVP!
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    I used to be an adventurer, but then my ping increased.

  9. #19
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Yep, this change is a big one. Fewer options for PvP but no more people using wrong accessories to increase ILvL.

    Edit: Later onm during the stream, they announced all PvP changes and now gear is not relevant anymore there.
    Gear in 4.0 will do nothing for PVP. It will only affect your appearance.
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  10. #20
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    Ugh. That's going to hurt glamour options. Not cool.
    This.

    I appreciate how it might help with cheating iLevels, but also this.

    I hope it's not retroactive, especially because of something like the Garo jewelry. I'd rather not have to get multiple sets.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 05-23-2017 at 08:29 PM.

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