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    Elara Almasombria
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    Parry replaced by tenacity (Gear only)

    Tenacity: increase damage done and reduce damage taken.

    Thank god (Yoshida and his team) for this.

    Note: Parry chance still exist, but it's no longer in your gear.
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    Zana Amariyo
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    And accuracy is gone from gear to be replaced just by level-based hit rates! Hallelujah!
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    Darn you beat me to it lmao I just made a thread, but yes thank god these changes are MUCH needed for tanks.
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Tenacity: increase damage done and reduce damage taken.
    I like this a good bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    And accuracy is gone from gear to be replaced just by level-based hit rates! Hallelujah!
    This not so much. Much like the str/vit thing from 2.0, it's just more interesting when you have something to consider. It's like why even bother to put stats in the game if you can't do anything with them?
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Going back to Str only influencing damage, but tanks will be locked to Vit accessories and Str accessories will be locked to DpS that use that stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Going back to Str only influencing damage, but tanks will be locked to Vit accessories and Str accessories will be locked to DpS that use that stat.
    Yeah it's the same that we have now they're just emphasizing that tanks need to put STR in their accessories while wearing VIT accessories since some of the playerbase never caught on.
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Yeah it's the same that we have now they're just emphasizing that tanks need to put STR in their accessories while wearing VIT accessories since some of the playerbase never caught on.
    Still a serious nerf in tank damage. An i270 tank is going to lose about 10% of their dps in Vit accessories. On the other hand, no ability to swap to strength accessories for a 25% increase in dps.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Still a serious nerf in tank damage. An i270 tank is going to lose about 10% of their dps in Vit accessories. On the other hand, no ability to swap to strength accessories for a 25% increase in dps.
    Keep in mind that Tenacity will increase damage too, so we'll have to see what kind of stat weight it'll have as a secondary stat. Even when we have zero Parry on our gear right now, I think we still have around 300-400 Parry, so transform that into Tenacity and let's see how much it contributes in the end. The Str change might have been a measure to not let tank damage increase to pre-3.2 levels while also giving us a useful sub-stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernosaur View Post
    Keep in mind that Tenacity will increase damage too, so we'll have to see what kind of stat weight it'll have as a secondary stat. Even when we have zero Parry on our gear right now, I think we still have around 300-400 Parry, so transform that into Tenacity and let's see how much it contributes in the end. The Str change might have been a measure to not let tank damage increase to pre-3.2 levels while also giving us a useful sub-stat.
    Doubt that Tenacity will have more dps weight than Crit, Skill Speed or Determination. My main point was that tank damage will be dropping even if the secondary stat based difference is shrinking.
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Tenacity: increase damage done and reduce damage taken.

    Thank god (Yoshida and his team) for this.

    Note: Parry chance still exist, but it's no longer in your gear.
    Not sure what the "parry chance" means. So is it tied to skills now that provide parry, Dark Dance, Raw Intuition, Bulwark? or something else? So glad for this change though. I wonder how it stacks up with DET, assuming it stays unchanged in 4.0 but its possible it might not. Sounds like a trade off to me. I just hope they don't mess up TENC and make the gains tier based like what they did with parry.
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