PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

[Adventica6]

With these new changes making mnd increase your dmg you literally have no excuse to not be dpsing when there isn't a need for healing, you either work or you get removed it's that simple, and these changes heavily reinforce that.

[joshdavis271]

With these new changes making mnd increase your dmg you literally have no excuse to not be dpsing when there isn't a need for healing, you either work or you get removed it's that simple, and these changes heavily reinforce that.

Exactly, there should be not standing there and derping when you need to perform something rather it be healing or attacking, the stone spells are not there to make your hotbar look pretty.

[szalkerous]

With these new changes making mnd increase your dmg you literally have no excuse to not be dpsing when there isn't a need for healing, you either work or you get removed it's that simple, and these changes heavily reinforce that.

The first person to call that out will find a lot of healers let them die because they were "too focused on DPSing" *smirk*.

Your move.

[akaneakki]

your move.

Not sure to cry or laugh at this.

Some people who play healers are also disabled and choose healing because it is a less intensive job than most DPS jobs

Some people who plays tanks and even DPS (check link) are disabled and I highly doubt than more than 60% of the healers are disabled. I know they exist, but you act like all of them are. If I see 8 out of 10 healers standing around afk, do I believe 8 of them are disbaled? No, maybe 1.. I don't know but for sure not all 8. This is a video of a guy playing MCH disable. Link to the video Then link to reddit post he made about the game being very disabled friendly. Link While I have given you some info on this, I would like to hear from you why 8 out of 10 healers just stand around afk. Like I said, I know disabled healers exist, but I highly doubt that all 8 are disabled, so I would like some info regards that from you.

And again... nobody said 100% performance. We are asking for people to use ALL THEIR SKILLS, than using 2 or 3 of them. If I have a healer who hit stone 3 few times or holy 2-3 times, I'm completely fine with it, because they tried and they will mostlikely do it more often as more confident they get. But when you actually don't try and then say ''I'm just here to heal every 20 seconds'' says more than 1000 words and actions of what type of person you are.
Why is is such a bad thing to even try? Most people here think it's such a bad thing. I don't get it.

[Adventica6]

You don't dps as a healer with these new changes I auto kick you, every, single, time.

Don't really have much more to say than that, is doesn't get any simpler.

[Freyt]

You don't dps as a healer with these new changes I auto kick you, every, single, time.

Don't really have much more to say than that, is doesn't get any simpler.

And if I'm tanking in your party and you kick the healer, I'll leave. Thanks for giving me a free ride out of your intolerant pug.

[Isala]

And if I'm tanking in your party and you kick the healer, I'll leave. Thanks for giving me a free ride out of your intolerant pug.

What exactly are you expecting here? "K, bye"? Cause that's about the only response you'll be getting from the group. Cause I seriously doubt a group willing to kick, and wait for a better healer will care that they have to wait for a better tank as well.

[Chessala]

And if I'm tanking in your party and you kick the healer, I'll leave. Thanks for giving me a free ride out of your intolerant pug.

Is that supposed to put pressure? It's funny how people think they can put themselves above others just because of their class choice.
Healer sucks and doesn't want to improve? Kick
Tank sucks and doesn't want to improve? Kick
DPS sucks and doesn't want to improve? Kick

I main healer and I don't get this "I don't dps just cuz", I really don't. Why would I stand around not doing anything? I dps-ed with CS already and I will dps without it. I didn't have a particular beef with CS, I always worked well with it but in terms of game design, it is a catastrophe. That's why I'm glad it is being removed.

Healers that don't use their dps skills just because just want to be lazy and I wish they would unsub. On this note, let me say I refuse to use rescue on bad players that just don't want to bother avoiding AoEs. If you try and are in a genuine pinch, I will do my best to help but I just don't support people being lazy and stupid

Whoever is thinking to kick out a party mate, needs weight the time needed to replace a member "in progress" first and continue duty then, vs continue with party as it is.

Whatever the reason for wanting kick out the member is.

No class should have a free pass just because of queue times. I rather run a dungeon that's 95% done all-over again than support this kind of behaviour. This is exactly why DF is such a pain in the ass, because everyone just ignores all the crap because of queue time.

If you queue for a duty, you should be a valuable addition to the party, not a blockhead with an attitude.

[LalaRu]

...No class should have a free pass just because of queue times. I rather run a dungeon that's 95% done all-over again than support this kind of behaviour. This is exactly why DF is such a pain in the ass, because everyone just ignores all the crap because of queue time.

If you queue for a duty, you should eb a valuable addition to the party, not a blockhead with an attitude.

Whoever wants make a personal crusade against all and everyone they think are "unworthy" of running a duty, your choice.

Lemme then know how you were able to differentiate someone playing "bad" because bad attitude or any kind of disabilities. Maybe you don't even bother why this is happening: that player is "bad" so lets get rid of that scum. Way to go.

/notsigned.

[Chessala]

Maybe you don't even bother why this is happening: that player is "bad" so lets get rid of that scum. Way to go.

/notsigned.

I find it funny that you jump at my throat for judging people without reason while you judge exactly how I will determine something like that?

If a player is obviously not performing well 8whatever that means for everyone is their own choice), I will try to engage with them. I'll try to talk and if it is an obvious lack of knowledge, I'll try to help them. However, if the reply is "shut up and do your own job" or "it's my sub, I play the way I want to", i think we can agree it's an attitude problem.

Just to calm your racing heart, no, I do not make snarky comments when i try to talk. I hope that clears this up.