Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Snat]

This is true indeed. We do not yet know "what" has changed with White Mage and that is the problem. All they shown us is what we are sharing and even the show case of skills used a few role skills. It makes you wonder why they are not showing us what is new about White Mage when the other jobs did go into a bit of detail about how they changed.

Plus the fact they did say White Mage isn't changing much. Hopefully we hear more soon as I would hate to drop White Mage - I been playing it for so long and couldn't imagine wearing anything that isn't the Healer Robe!

There is no cross-class Regen.

I think a lot of you are doom-saying a little bit too much before even getting to know more about the new core mechanics of WHM. I'd wait to hear more about the job's flower-based stuff before jumping to conclusions. The fact that Protect, Divine Seal, Esuna and Cleric are now in role skills means that either WHM can get new skills that come with utility or mitigation (or both), or that the other healers are losing skills too, since they want to avoid hotbar cluttering. Particularly in the case of Divine Seal, since it is a job action, this means WHM DEFINITELY is gonna get something to replace it.

Stone IV was an obvious addition since all healers need an updated potency nuke to keep up with DPS (which will replace Stone I/II/III in our hotbars, as well as Ruin and Broil, yay!) so I don't see why anyone would complain there...

I know their comments weren't exactly uplifting, but don't go so far as to bury WHM just yet, have a little faith in your main job .

Btw, the fairy tether makes me think Scholar's healing output through Eos is getting a rather heavy handed nerf, so there's that at least? lmao. The fact that they decided to showcase AST's cards with Arrow instead of Balance makes me suspect Balance might be reworked somehow... but we'll see.

This is what I think has happened.

Regen's one of the shakiest of the claims I've seen thus far. It's being reported as if it were fact over on Reddit from more than one person, so take that with however much salt you want. Could be one person misheard and it memed its way into the community, could be true.

[Crushnight]

maybe they are making fights require whm levels of healing as the other 2 hlrs will have synastry + divine veal or dissapation + divine veal so 40% healing increase to try bring them up for content but yea whm still needs more utility over healing prowress

[Yorumi]

I know their comments weren't exactly uplifting, but don't go so far as to bury WHM just yet, have a little faith in your main job .

The main reason is that we know what needs to happen to make whm useful. Basically either the endgame needs to change to require a hell of a lot more healing than it does now or whm needs some ability to boost raid dps. Since whm has no answer to balance/arrow or fey wind, and they're unwilling to make a raid require the healing power of a whm there's not a lot of hope to be had. Sure we'll wait for final confirmation but it's highly unlikely either of those things is happening. Plain and simple whm needs haste as an answer to cards and fey wind.

[Fernosaur]

None of this looks like Regen to me.

[Yuyuka3]

There is no cross-class Regen.

I sure do hope so.

I know their comments weren't exactly uplifting, but don't go so far as to bury WHM just yet, have a little faith in your main job .

I'm sorry to tell you that my faith in Square's ability to balance healers, especially WHM, properly died quite some time ago. It was a tragic, painful death an the loss will be sorely felt.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I expected WHM to not be so good in SB honestly, but to completely gut them like this...

[Fernosaur]

I sure do hope so.

I'm sorry to tell you that my faith in Square's ability to balance healers, especially WHM, properly died quite some time ago. It was a tragic, painful death an the loss will be sorely felt.

I know how you feel. I used to main Paladin throughout late ARR and into early HW and believe me, nothing felt quite as abandoned and left in the dust as PLD. It still feels like it, but even through the lackluster job they've done to balance PLD has me with some surviving hope that it might be a little bit more in-line with the other tanks come SB. Of course, it helps that we got much more info on tank changes than we did for healers, but we'll see.

I'm just saying that it's still waaay too early to count WHM out. They're getting spell-speed buffs, and I don't think the WHM showcase was just to give another demonstration of Rescue. My theory is that they can share this spell/skill-speed buff somehow.

It makes you wonder why they are not showing us what is new about White Mage when the other jobs did go into a bit of detail about how they changed.

Tbh I was holding out through the entire liveletter for more SCH info and we got even less than we got for WHM, so I wouldn't be so sure that it's because WHM is gonna die forever. The data we got on AST was also pretty vague and didn't go into detail at all.

[Yuyuka3]

None of this looks like Regen to me.

I can't read the name of the Divine Seal lookalike, but the one that looks like a colour swapped version of Shroud is the skill called "Lucid Dream" (Ruushidodoriimu), if my kana don't fail me completely... the one below is the new E4E.

[Lunaxia]

None of this looks like Regen to me.

It says the cross role abilities are:
Cleric (now a DPS buff)
Break (which looks almost exactly like MCH's Suppressive Fire; we're getting a Stun?)
Protect
Esuna
Lucid Dream (someone guessed Sleep but it looks disturbingly like a re-coloured Shroud of Saints Icon?)
Swiftcast
Eye for an Eye
Affection (?) (I'm assuming this is some form of cross role Divine Seal)
Surecast
Rescue (the GET OVER HERE move)

[TheLastDream]

Us WHM getting a raw deal. Not surprised though.