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  1. #561
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    SAM is the new MNK actually. Zero raid utility!
    Hope they gave them considerably more DPS to compensate this time >_>

    I get the feeling they're not really learning anything. But we'll see.
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  2. #562
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I really don't want to level White Mage. Square is seriously lucky I am forced to in order to level my Retainers passed 60.. Once my White mage gets to 70 I won't gear it out I won't touch it I won't even fucking heal. Over the last month Square has seriously let me down costantly. First the server move, now you destroy my class I loved since 2.2. I really hope Bard is fun thats the only class I am looking forward to play.
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  3. #563
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Just when the Cleric Stance changes made me hopeful to start healing again, SE dropped the ball with WHM. Maybe in 5.0.
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  4. #564
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    Xylas Lothian
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    Considering you're over on the tank forum whining about drk, and we know in HW plds and whms were refused parties for high end content, do you think that maybe, just maybe people will be turning down whm? No I'm sure everyone is going to prefer pure overheal potency to party wide damage buffs and high utility while maintaining almost the exact same heal potency.
    Re-read above. Also I said that the new animations and removal of current skills was underwhelming. I never chastised the class as a whole like this entire thread is doing.

    I know someone that mains AST (who says WHM sounds amazing but still prefers AST because WHM is basic ;p), and I have a SCH I backup heal as, even if the ilvl is garbage. WHM's new kit sounds fun compared to the current, and doesn't seem useless. But I'm not 70, and I'm not raiding, and neither is anyone else here.

    I think all classes will make it into raids. Are you in a hardcore FC? You probably won't main WHM. Are you pugging? People aren't going to turn you away, and if they do, make some friends and play the class you want. MCH, AST, SCH, and MNK all went through the same thing.


    Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to that thread to complain about the two new DRK skills, and the fact that Paladins get a nuke, more dps, and magic mitigation.
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    Last edited by Xylas; 06-01-2017 at 02:35 AM. Reason: Bein' silly.

  5. #565
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70



    Use those skills together and go wild, i guess?
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  6. #566
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post



    Use those skills together and go wild, i guess?
    Meanwhile, AST gets a 900 potency heal (on top of all the existing card buffs, namely handing out Raging Strikes) and SCH gets it own version of Battle Litany. Yep, everyone's totally going to take WHM over those.
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  7. #567
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    Saraphin's Avatar
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Snat View Post
    Yep. Why I still think come 4.1 we will have 10 slots for role skills xD
    not sure, that still wouldn't balance the WHM issue. that would just buff up AST and SCH more.
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  8. #568
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Scholar has zip for sustained aoe now, aside from... Miasma II spamming...? I think WHM looked pretty good with that perm 20% cd on healing from the lillies. Couple that with PoM and Thin air and you have flexible DPS for days.

    WHM got a treat this expansion. Scholar got slapped in comparison.

    RDM looking sexy with the 5k Veracure instant raise though
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  9. #569
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Scholar has zip for sustained aoe now, aside from... Miasma II spamming...? I think WHM looked pretty good with that perm 20% DPS buff from the lillies increasing spell speed. Couple that with PoM and Thin air and you have flexible DPS for days.

    WHM got a treat this expansion. Scholar got slapped in comparison.
    SCH gets it own Battle Litany. SCH didn't get slapped, it's place has been cemented for the next 2 years at least.
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  10. #570
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Meanwhile, AST gets a 900 potency heal (on top of all the existing card buffs, namely handing out Raging Strikes)
    That need 10 sec preperation time (if you want the 900 heal potency) and run out after 20 sec
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-01-2017 at 02:23 AM.

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