Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Cupcakesu]

But it's not "free whenever"

Confessions only last 10 seconds so it will always require a Medica cast first.


SE, remove the damn timer from confessions.

They don't want PI functioning like Assize. It is meant to be bonus healing on top of the AoE heals you're already going to cast. Consider it a potency increase on Medica/MedicaII.

[Darkplanet]

But why do you need more than 10 seconds? They clearly want you to use PI immediately after one or multiple Medicas now, not save them.

Yea that def seems what they want you to. As a boost like you said. And that makes sense. But most of the time really 1 heal is enough I would say? And if it was 30 or so you are able to basically choose, shall I use this to boost to my aoe heal now? Or hold it for the time being in case we get hit hard again?

[IndoX]

But why do you need more than 10 seconds? They clearly want you to use PI immediately after one or multiple Medicas now, not save them.

Because we don't need OGCD mana free healing. Thin air solves that problem. The value in confession and PI would be in saving it for on demand healing when you need it. I would never use PI after a precasted Medica II/Medica followed by an assize. Why? Because your other healer will be using their AoE spell and it'll be overkill. And in the event that you need to use Cure III you should pair it with Thin Air so you can spam it.

I would want to store confessions and use PI in phases where I would normally spend mana. That would make it worth it to use (for me). This is the same reason lilies are bad. Healing is all about pre-planning. Getting 10-15s off a CD doesn't mean anything to me as I make sure the CD will be up by a specific phase or attack.

[JCVeros]

What an absolutely horrendous change. I can't BELIEVE I let myself get excited about this. Currently if an Astrologian casts 1 Helios and 1 Earthly Star every minute combined with their sect bonus they have a total AOE heal potency of 1,025. If a White Mage casts 1 Medica, 1 Assize, and 1 Plenary every minute they achieve a total AOE heal potency of 750. Why even bother making this adjustment to the skill if you were going to nerf it so far into the ground we still wouldn't want to use it. Why do you continue to make one mistake after another when it comes to balancing this job? What is wrong with you?

I'm sorry but I quit. I refuse to play a game where my favorite job gets stepped all over for years on end. It has to stop. I was willing to accept that maybe, with Stormblood, they made a mistake. With 4.05, they should have corrected that mistake. But now it's increasingly obvious that they don't know what they're doing. I'm out. Everyone enjoy yourselves.

[Thalatos]

If its not just on the initial tick of a medica II then u can just let it get to 3 stacks and then PI to top off anyone with it. Otherwise its nice for lets say a multiple time hitting group aoe like in susano ex to get a free heal there.
I myself think its definitely an improvement over what it was before. Not necessarily the one we need or deserved but an improvement nevertheless.

[JCVeros]

To all the people saying it's meant to be a way to top everyone else off as bonus free healing on top of your medica and assize, that's all well and good until you crunch the numbers and realize that it's still weaker overall than both Astrologian and Scholar who, I might remind you, have tons of other benefits for the party. White Mage brings healing and ONLY healing, so why is that weaker than Astrologian and Scholar? I'll wait while you come up with an answer. It might take you some time.

[magnanimousCynic]

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Bit of a bad example, don't you think? You don't cast x aoes per minute, you cast them when you use them.

Also why aren't you using Cure III instead of Medica I in your numbers? that would make WHM's AoE potency per minute 1000.

[fantasticm]

If its not just on the initial tick of a medica II then u can just let it get to 3 stacks and then PI to top off anyone with it. Otherwise its nice for lets say a multiple time hitting group aoe like in susano ex to get a free heal there.
I myself think its definitely an improvement over what it was before. Not necessarily the one we need or deserved but an improvement nevertheless.

Yeah there's no way in hell Confession stacks are going to proc off Medica II ticks. If they do then that's confirmation we've shifted into another dimension.

[IndoX]

Bit of a bad example, don't you think? You don't cast x aoes per minute, you cast them when you use them.

Also why aren't you using Cure III instead of Medica I in your numbers? that would make WHM's AoE potency per minute 1000.

Honestly if you're using Cure III any additional healing by PI will result in overheals.

[magnanimousCynic]

Honestly if you're using Cure III any additional healing by PI will result in overheals.

While I agree, that's not the point JCV was trying to make. JCV was purely comparing potencies in a vacuum. By your logic then AST would be overhealing, more than WHM too!