Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[mallory627]

That #stupidyoshi ruin the root of healer class and over-buff AST instead...

SE time to replace and hire a competent person please. I know that #stupidyoshi was the God who brought back FF 14 from calamity before, but now he's just a lazy ass person... =.=a

I don't agree with what you're saying. Sure, the things that are going on with White Mage sucks, but thats no reason to blame it all on YoshiP and demand that someone take his job. It sounds you just want to rant about hating on YoshiP for something that possibly wasn't thought over as much as some other classes. Yeah, WHM is getting the short end, but making new abilities and making WHM more interesting is hard; it's hard to change he play style to something new while keeping everything that everyone already likes.

I'm annoyed too, but that's no reason to blatantly go after someone, especially the Producer of the game that you are currently playing. >.>

[ximxim]

I'm annoyed too, but that's no reason to blatantly go after someone, especially the Producer of the game that you are currently playing. >.>

Now, if you go to Mcdonalds, and you find a larva inside your yummy cheeseburger, who is the first person you will call / blame? it is the Manager! In FF14 case, it's Yoshi! Right now, WHM got lots of larva in their arsenal skills and Yoshi thinks that those larva is good for human to digest... =.= As a consumer who sub to their game, am I forbid to complaint?

If SE wise enough, they will see complaints from players as suggestions which will make their product become better in the future which will keep their players sub longer which means more income for the company, no?
If majority of WHM complaint, means that something isn't right and needs to be fixed! And how to make our voice to be heard by them? Well, complaints is the first step.

[Foxehkins]

Now, if you go to Mcdonalds, and you find a larva inside your yummy cheeseburger, who is the first person you will call / blame? it is the Manager! In FF14 case, it's Yoshi! Right now, WHM got lots of larva in their arsenal skills and Yoshi thinks that those larva is good for human to digest... =.= As a consumer who sub to their game, am I forbid to complaint?

If SE wise enough, they will see complaints from players as suggestions which will make their product become better in the future which will keep their players sub longer which means more income for the company, no?
If majority of WHM complaint, means that something isn't right and needs to be fixed! And how to make our voice to be heard by them? Well, complaints is the first step.

This is probably the worst analogy I've read. These things are not even remotely the same.

[mallory627]

Now, if you go to Mcdonalds, and you find a larva inside your yummy cheeseburger, who is the first person you will call / blame? it is the Manager! In FF14 case, it's Yoshi! Right now, WHM got lots of larva in their arsenal skills and Yoshi thinks that those larva is good for human to digest... =.= As a consumer who sub to their game, am I forbid to complaint?

Yeah, You can't really compare getting bugs in your food, to a glitch or a bug in a game. Those are not the same things.

As well, if SE is wise enough to fix the problem, which they currently are right now, firing their Producer for the game that helps oversee and get everything done is obviously not the best choice. You're just being salty, so just wait until the next patch and then maybe things will start to change.

That's all any of us can hope for for now.

[Wasselin]

I know others might not feel the same way, but as WHM I feel like I have almost TOO many healing skills. I actually took Benediction off my main hot bar and put it on a secondary one because they all just don't fit and so many of them do almost identical things. For instance, Benediction and Tetragrammaton: they are the same type of spell (emergency single target instant heal) but with different cooldowns and potency (also isn't it dumb that it's called Benediction and not Full Cure, since that's an actual WHM FF spell?).

I obviously haven't tried out Plenary Indulgence yet either, but I anticipate it'll kind of be a clunkier version of spells we already have. It's either a single target weak emergency heal on the tank like Tetra or it will be an a weak limited target aoe heal similar to how you might use Assize.

[VanilleFang]

A lot of spell and ability names were taken from FFXI. Benediction is a healing spell in FFXI.

Also, Bene and Tetra are SIMILAR but not nearly the same thing. Tetra is up much more often making it more reliable in most situation. I use them in different situations (For example, Bene allows more free time to DPS than Tetra) and WHM doesn't need to lose any more abilities, so I would be royally peeved if they removed either.

[Wasselin]

Tetra is up much more often making it more reliable in most situation. I use them in different situations...

Yes, they aren't exactly the same, but they are very similar. Bene heals for more than Tetra but is it really accurate to say that you use them in different situations? I'd be interested to hear how you use them in different situations. For me, the situation is the same the only real difference is that I can use tetra more.

With the addition of lillies and plenary I just feel like WHM isn't very elegant or exciting.

FFXI is just one game... it would make more sense to me to take names from that are present across the entire franchise, but it's just a name so not really a big deal.

[SuzakuCMX]

Tetra isn't really an emergency heal by itself. It has the same potency as Cure II so unless you consider Cure II an "emergency heal" too it's not an emergency heal. You usually stack it on top of one of your other heals to augment that healing or squeeze in a few more seconds of DPS for a heal bomb. Benediction is usually my "oh fuck I DPS'd too long and the tank is about to die" button, or "I want to DPS an make the tank have a heart attack because they suck at tanking and won't use their CDs" button.

[PhoLover]

I am not sure why people are still complaining after the patch. I was a bit concern just because I read all these posts about whm. But honestly, after I play it in 4.0. I love it more. I went on a roulette: 50/60 yesterday and the tank kept dc the entire time. So you know what. I healed a machinist and a blm without a tank in that dungeon and I also got to dps, we finished the dungeon as 3 man with no wipe. I took cleric stance over Largesse too. Healing, and dps as a whm is much easier than before. If anything the lillies make our lives easier, cure I has a 50% proc, and cure II is 100%. Those who said 20% (after the patch) either didn't play the game, or don't know how to read.

and you know what I spammed holy without thin air in lvl 60 dung. MP isn't even an issue, I played all the roulette yesterday without mp reaching below 50%.

I just want to say the new expansion is great even if I can't get my msq done. I hope they do fix the msq soon.

[SuzakuCMX]

and you know what I spammed holy without thin air in lvl 60 dung. MP isn't even an issue, I played all the roulette yesterday without mp reaching below 50%.

I rezzed 4 people in a trial and was back at full MP after a minute >_>