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  1. #1001
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    Feidam's Avatar
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DuskTS View Post
    Lilies don't even proc off Assize, Asylum, Tetra.
    A part of me was so hopeful for the Lily gauge we were gonna use flower power to really bring something useful to the raid.
    I now have to hold on to the hope that in-game content is designed to allow WHM to shine, but shine with what? SB Astro does it all better.
    Lilies are consumed by assize and asylum why would the consumer proc them?
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  2. #1002
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    OmegaFlare's Avatar
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    Omega Flare
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I just came back from a 2-year hiatus as a WHM main hoping to enjoy SB to the fullest. This does put a dent in my plan for sure. I don't know if I can wait a few months for them to fix WHM though.
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  3. #1003
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    In ARR initially, the cure and cure2 was to utilize the traits and maintain mana efficiency. I wonder if they are attempting to enforce that again?
    And then make the most mana efficient heal, Regen, not contribute to the system at all...?

    The most mana efficient way to heal (and often most efficient way in general) is to let Regen do the job and use your OGCD abilities as often as possible, because they are free, rather than using Cure.

    They actually want you to be mana inefficient.
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  4. #1004
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    Feidam's Avatar
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    And then make the most mana efficient heal, Regen, not contribute to the system at all...?

    The most mana efficient way to heal (and often most efficient way in general) is to let Regen do the job and use your OGCD abilities as often as possible, because they are free, rather than using Cure.

    They actually want you to be mana inefficient.
    Now it is mana is mana inefficient, but it wasn't then. Which is my point. Instead of changing the old traits they are doubling down on them and trying to enforce their use.
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  5. #1005
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    Yorin Liefhart
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    That Feeling When Chickens Little start screaming "The Sky is Falling!"
    That feeling when you see a bus speeding towards you and say "I'll wait and see if it hurts."
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  6. #1006
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leigaon View Post
    To those who just simply put "get rid of it! disgusting..I'm applaud!" Okay, well pretend like it is deleted and go play something else, because saying "just delete whm" is not helping.
    The reason I say to delete WHM isn't for me. Sure, I can just drop it and never touch it again, and I plan to do so. What bothers me though is that people may pick it up expecting it to be a decent healer, only to find out later that it's objectively worse.

    This isn't just "The meta prefers other jobs", this is a case of other jobs doing better at literally ever aspect of WHM, and steps should be taken to ensure people don't make the mistake of playing it.
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  7. #1007
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    And when Stormblood ACTUALLY is here people may see that whm may be fine.
    Yes, everyone please look forward to June 16th.



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  8. #1008
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    The reason I say to delete WHM isn't for me. Sure, I can just drop it and never touch it again, and I plan to do so. What bothers me though is that people may pick it up expecting it to be a decent healer, only to find out later that it's objectively worse.

    This isn't just "The meta prefers other jobs", this is a case of other jobs doing better at literally ever aspect of WHM, and steps should be taken to ensure people don't make the mistake of playing it.
    Comparing the other jobs without testing out and trying out wont do anything either. Just because its written on the paper and other healer jobs look like they will do better than WHM cant be argued right now. It might be that everything for WHM looks really bad at the moment. But this doesnt mean, the WHM may not be buffed later on. Dont be suprised if the other healers get actually nerfed, because that would actually cause a real shitstorm.
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  9. #1009
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Comparing the other jobs without testing out and trying out wont do anything either. Just because its written on the paper and other healer jobs look like they will do better than WHM cant be argued right now. It might be that everything for WHM looks really bad at the moment. But this doesnt mean, the WHM may not be buffed later on. Dont be suprised if the other healers get actually nerfed, because that would actually cause a real shitstorm.
    If things are changed then by all means I'll change my stance. As it is now though, not only are the potencies terrible, but the type of gameplay required to utilize the new stuff encourages terrible play (Mostly by discouraging anything that isn't cure, cure 2, or assize)
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  10. #1010
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    Khona Epocan
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    Adamantoise
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    Weaver Lv 90
    I too have to add my name to the list of disappointed White Mages. They said they were going to balance both tanks and healers for SB, but I guess they just thought that balancing healers meant buffing AST one more time, and gutting WHM while they were at it.

    I'm glad I have my AST ready to go, because it looks like my main is dead. I'm just so sad about this.
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    Last edited by justaminuet; 06-01-2017 at 11:18 PM.

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