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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Regen's one of the shakiest of the claims I've seen thus far. It's being reported as if it were fact over on Reddit from more than one person, so take that with however much salt you want. Could be one person misheard and it memed its way into the community, could be true.
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    Patricia Nirvana
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    This is true indeed. We do not yet know "what" has changed with White Mage and that is the problem. All they shown us is what we are sharing and even the show case of skills used a few role skills. It makes you wonder why they are not showing us what is new about White Mage when the other jobs did go into a bit of detail about how they changed.

    Plus the fact they did say White Mage isn't changing much. Hopefully we hear more soon as I would hate to drop White Mage - I been playing it for so long and couldn't imagine wearing anything that isn't the Healer Robe!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fernosaur View Post
    There is no cross-class Regen.

    I think a lot of you are doom-saying a little bit too much before even getting to know more about the new core mechanics of WHM. I'd wait to hear more about the job's flower-based stuff before jumping to conclusions. The fact that Protect, Divine Seal, Esuna and Cleric are now in role skills means that either WHM can get new skills that come with utility or mitigation (or both), or that the other healers are losing skills too, since they want to avoid hotbar cluttering. Particularly in the case of Divine Seal, since it is a job action, this means WHM DEFINITELY is gonna get something to replace it.

    Stone IV was an obvious addition since all healers need an updated potency nuke to keep up with DPS (which will replace Stone I/II/III in our hotbars, as well as Ruin and Broil, yay!) so I don't see why anyone would complain there...

    I know their comments weren't exactly uplifting, but don't go so far as to bury WHM just yet, have a little faith in your main job .

    Btw, the fairy tether makes me think Scholar's healing output through Eos is getting a rather heavy handed nerf, so there's that at least? lmao. The fact that they decided to showcase AST's cards with Arrow instead of Balance makes me suspect Balance might be reworked somehow... but we'll see.
    This is what I think has happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Regen's one of the shakiest of the claims I've seen thus far. It's being reported as if it were fact over on Reddit from more than one person, so take that with however much salt you want. Could be one person misheard and it memed its way into the community, could be true.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80


    None of this looks like Regen to me.
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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fernosaur View Post


    None of this looks like Regen to me.
    I can't read the name of the Divine Seal lookalike, but the one that looks like a colour swapped version of Shroud is the skill called "Lucid Dream" (Ruushidodoriimu), if my kana don't fail me completely... the one below is the new E4E.
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fernosaur View Post
    None of this looks like Regen to me.
    It says the cross role abilities are:
    Cleric (now a DPS buff)
    Break (which looks almost exactly like MCH's Suppressive Fire; we're getting a Stun?)
    Protect
    Esuna
    Lucid Dream (someone guessed Sleep but it looks disturbingly like a re-coloured Shroud of Saints Icon?)
    Swiftcast
    Eye for an Eye
    Affection (?) (I'm assuming this is some form of cross role Divine Seal)
    Surecast
    Rescue (the GET OVER HERE move)
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    Last edited by Lunaxia; 05-23-2017 at 07:20 AM.

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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    It says the cross role abilities are:
    Cleric (now a DPS buff)
    Break (which looks almost exactly like MCH's Suppressive Fire; we're getting a Stun?)
    Protect
    Esuna
    Lucid Dream (someone guessed Sleep but it looks disturbingly like a re-coloured Shroud of Saints Icon?)
    Swiftcast
    Eye for an Eye
    Affection (?) (I'm assuming this is some form of cross role Divine Seal)
    Surecast
    Rescue (the GET OVER HERE move)
    Thanks for the translations!! I was thinking Lucid Dream might be an MP regen, but seeing how caster DPS also have it on their role skills, I'm pretty sure it's a Sleep spell.

    Edit: HUH.... they still have Repose, though. Hmmmm, intriguing. Shroud of Saints doesn't seem to be there either, so perhaps they're flat out removing MP regens out of job based abilities for all three healers? Man... if Aetherflow stops giving MP back it's gonna suck! Lmfao.

    Also couldn't help but notice that Cure III seems to be gated behind the flower UI thing now, as it's greyed out in the hotbar.

    That doesn't sound thrilling... >.>
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    Last edited by Fernosaur; 05-23-2017 at 08:30 AM.

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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 90
    So we keep repose but not stoneskin and our main mana regen ability has been removed (possibly cross classed). Im only seeing four new abilities which makes me wonder if thats all we get this time around or if theres some new passive we get thats not on display?
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I expected WHM to not be so good in SB honestly, but to completely gut them like this...
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    I'm trying to get caught up..so do we know what barrier does?

    From the looks of it, I'll still be playing White Mage..guess we will have to wait to see how good or bad it is.
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    Last Dream
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Us WHM getting a raw deal. Not surprised though.
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