Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by SlogDog

I was thinking maybe not a heal at all, maybe stone could have a lower chance to proc lilies, along with adding in regen at a lower rate. I think that would be more balanced towards the full toolkit. still pretty pointless and tacked on but it would be something. Scaling DB would make it a little more wanted... since tetra spends lillies to cast your idea is more like one free refill each time.

Mechanically, adding it to a dps skill could make sense, but it doesn't fit their WHM theme. Tetra has a long enough cooldown to keep some semblance of balance while removing some RNG and adding an additional trigger.

Originally Posted by Kethic

Mechanically, adding it to a dps skill could make sense, but it doesn't fit their WHM theme. Tetra has a long enough cooldown to keep some semblance of balance while removing some RNG and adding an additional trigger.

With all due respect their white mage "theme" is the biggest problem currently.

Can't argue there.

Originally Posted by Gespenst

replaced them with nothing.

I think my biggest fear is how bored I'm going to be alternating straight-up damage and heals with hardly any support goodies to pad them out with. I mean, our support is bad now but having a few little bits and pieces really helps and even those got stripped down. I was reading Japanese forums and people were coming up with interesting theories about how WHMs might get an AOE form of Esuna or something to make up for the role skill frustrations, but then we just got what amounts to a weird distraction instead of something solid and revolutionary. At least some people are moaning over there as well so it's not just us who are upset about it all.

I did think some of the new stuff sounded viable in PVP (where I shamelessly spam Cure spells like they're going out of fashion) but PVP is being reworked and this stuff won't even be usable there.

So I don't get it.

On the bright side I already have AST and SCH ready to go since WHM has been lagging behind both for a while in my FC challenge parties so I'm not going to have to urgently level a replacement job up to play. And if I do occasionally use WHM, I'll have so much free space on my hotbars from the skill purge that I'll be able to macro all of my favourite emotes onto individual buttons for the first time!

It's more of an emotional reaction since WHM is special to me. Was special to me. Talk about oversimplification.

Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

Oh look, the 'English players are inferior' argument.

No, it's the "The English forums yell and scream contradictions at each other" thus no useful feedback will be collected.

When there is nobody defending a certain side of the argument, then that's considered unanimous that something is broken/not-broken.

There are people defending both the raider-whm-dps side and the pro-healer-whm side, and the only thing they both saw eye to eye on was that cleric stance was a hindrance.

I believe its safe to say that nobody, regardless of language or play style, is or can defend these changes. With that said, they have 14 days to fix this and as much as I would like to think that they can, we are looking at a Warrior 2.0 situation again. its going to require multiple patches to fix this and by my estimates, the better portion of a year. Seeing WHMs running around in the level 70 zones is going to be as rare as seeing a Unicorn. I'll give WHM a try but I am not optimistic, not at all.

I know they wanted to fix the whole which healer is better meta thing but wow, I had no idea that they were going to essentially remove a healer from raiding outright and force AST / SCH. If things don't change, I guarantee you that when you look at a PF group, you will see that WHM is excluded from any invites.

Must skip Soar and WHM.

Originally Posted by Gespenst

I don't understand this at all. You took away many of our required abilities, gave them to everyone else and made us buy them back and replaced them with nothing.

This is awful. D:

I play a SCH but basically this for WHM.

RNG on every heal. Congrats AST was supposed to be the RNG healer not WHM.